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I guess more specifically, is this an attack on the first amendment or simply upholding separation of church and state?

To prohibit an individual from saying certain words seems like the first, but then the question is whether it is allowed at a public (state funded) event? The school is not forcing or endorsing the words or a prayer in anyway, it is up to the students on whether they want to say those words.

Hmm..

Lets look at what the term "public"means. I think it means funded from public sources....ie...taxpayers. I think taxpayers include the parents of the kids that want to pray. What right does the "public" institution have to tell them what they can and cannot say assuming it is not slanderous or maligns someone else? This should include Muslims as well as the good Christians in Texas praying about killing the other team on the gridiron. Freedom of religion is freedom of religion. I am not Muslim but I will defend their right to pray in this country any where they want to. I've been in countries where praying to anything other than the official God will result in death. In fact, I know people who have laid down their lives for just such an offense.

We are not perfect here by any means, buts it a far sight better than that.

Best case, the government for which we pay good money to operate should just stay the heck out of stuff like this.

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Lets look at what the term "public"means. I think it means funded from public sources....ie...taxpayers. I think taxpayers include the parents of the kids that want to pray. What right does the "public" institution have to tell them what they can and cannot say assuming it is not slanderous or maligns someone else? This should include Muslims as well as the good Christians in Texas praying about killing the other team on the gridiron. Freedom of religion is freedom of religion. I am not Muslim but I will defend their right to pray in this country any where they want to. I've been in countries where praying to anything other than the official God will result in death. In fact, I know people who have laid down their lives for just such an offense.

We are not perfect here by any means, buts it a far sight better than that.

Best case, the government for which we pay good money to operate should just stay the heck out of stuff like this.

I think I will have a

Unfortunately there are folks who lack your viewpoint... I can only imagine the scene around here if word got out that $0.01 of taxpayer money was spent on anything pertaining to any religion not part of the accepted local norms....

it would be worse than when word got out that Disney World had "Gay Day" and people who never planned to go to Disney World decided to boycott it...

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Wow, it seems like most are inline with challenging the Christian ideology of public prayer at public events!

Shocking really. As the world turns, I am surprised as 20 years ago I think it would be a different story and one with more arms up in the air.

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Lets look at what the term "public"means. I think it means funded from public sources....ie...taxpayers. I think taxpayers include the parents of the kids that want to pray. What right does the "public" institution have to tell them what they can and cannot say assuming it is not slanderous or maligns someone else? This should include Muslims as well as the good Christians in Texas praying about killing the other team on the gridiron. Freedom of religion is freedom of religion. I am not Muslim but I will defend their right to pray in this country any where they want to. I've been in countries where praying to anything other than the official God will result in death. In fact, I know people who have laid down their lives for just such an offense.

We are not perfect here by any means, buts it a far sight better than that.

Best case, the government for which we pay good money to operate should just stay the heck out of stuff like this.

I think I will have a

As with all complex social issues, these things can take on a different color depending on what perspective you take.

On the one hand, the decision to schedule a prayer as part of the graduation ceremony could be viewed as an act of the taxpayers (i.e., "we the people") who are simply exercising their right to free expression of religion. In which case, back off, government!

From a slightly different perspective, the decision to schedule a prayer as part of the graduation ceremony could be viewed as an act of a UT official (i.e., "government bureaucrat") who is stipulating which religion is granted favored status so as to be represented before the captive audience of graduation attendees. In which case, what the heck are you doing trying to choose between religions, government?

Overall I think these public prayers are mostly harmless (although such public declarations of religion do come off as self-serving to me in an Emperor-Has-No-Clothes kind of way), but there is an element of society that is really disturbed by the idea of the government being involved with religion at all. They're the ones who sue.

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Not gonna take it

I think that many people are tired of religious bigots ramming their ideoloy down their throats and they are not going to take it any more..........

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There Is A GOD!!!

"Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." --- "Therefore, I Believe it and I will see it. And every day and in every way, I am healthier, wealthier, and wiser."
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correction

No rTrade, there are LOTS of gods, and every last one of them is the One and Only TRUE GOD. And throughout history, it is written that anyone who disagrees with that MUST DIE! And THE FAITHFUL realized they needed to make that happen, because for some strange reason, none of these GODS seems to be able to do it! (How is that for "Terrorism"?)

Now, back to conversing with my imaginary supernatural friends, who watch me every minute of every day and tablulate all my sins in the same kind of SQL Server database that Ninajtader uses! That's why upgrading from 6.5 to 7 was SUCH A BIG DEAL!

The kind of" thinking" that craves belief in occult supernatural beings does not seem to me like the logical pragmatism that is necessary for trading success, but I could be wrong! How is your faith based trading coming along?

But seriously, if we fail to acknowledge the sovereignty of the imaginary beings over every aspect of our lives, we are eternally condemned! Sounds like a NO WIN situation!


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No rTrade, there are LOTS of gods, and every last one of them is the One and Only TRUE GOD. And anyone who disagrees with that MUST DIE! And it is the duty of the faithful to make sure that happens, because for some strange reason, none of these GODS seems to be able to do it! (How is that for "Terrorism"?)

Now, back to conversing with my imaginary supernatural friends, who watch me every minute of every day and tablulate all my sins in the same kind of SQL Server database that Ninajtader uses! That's why upgrading from 6.5 to 7 was SUCH A BIG DEAL!

The kind of" thinking" that craves belief in occult supernatural beings does not seem to me like the logical pragmatism that is necessary for trading success, but I could be wrong! How is your faith based trading coming?

But seriously, if we fail to acknowledge the sovereignty of the imaginary beings over every aspect of our lives, we are eternally condemned! Sounds like a NO WIN situation!

Ahhhh.....sounds like you need a "Savior God".......of which there have been 16 different ones throughout human history.

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but which one?

I'd better put my bet on the right horse or who knows what kind of hell I might find myself in!

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I'd better put my bet on the right horse or who knows what kind of hell I might find myself in!

Hell??????You mean the place where the "God of Love" tortures you in fire for all eternity?

Well......actually they are all the same........the stories have been built on one another.......it is amazing to study the similiarities.

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