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TSA Could Ban Flights From Texas If State Passes Anti-Patdown Law

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TSA Could Ban Flights From Texas If State Passes Anti-Patdown Law - The Consumerist


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A showdown is in the works over an anti-patdown law, which the Texas House of Representatives recently approved by a unanimous vote. Texas legislators say the rule is needed because existing laws "let government employees fondle innocent women, children and men."

The Department of Justice has sent a letter to Texas legislative leaders warning that the rule would run counter to federal laws, and could cause the Transportation Security Administration to "cancel any flight or series of flights for which it could not ensure the safety of passengers and crew."

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I blame it all on the TSA. If they hired a bunch of strippers to search the men... guys would be lining up at the airport... even if they weren't flying... and it would save a bunch of us old guys a fortune... they charge too much for that same service down at the Eager Beaver....

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Well, I think we know where the capital of Homophobia is?

I personally want everyone scanned if they are flying with ME. No harm, no foul as long as we don't have to bend over and cough. Then I will most likely walk or swim to where I need to go.

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Hell Yeah.

Pay good money to travel and have yourself, wife and child touched and scanned naked.

The new American way.

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This is one of the few issues I disagree with my fellow Libertarians....

Ask yourself, if they had flights with no security pat downs and flights with, both available, do you think anyone would choose the lesser security?

If I was an airline receptionist and people started whining about being delayed for aircraft maintenance issues I would simply get on the loud speaker and say "everyone who wants to fly on the broken aircraft, please line up to commence boarding now."

No one forces anyone to fly. You have options. You can take a train, a bus, a car, or, better yet, you can buy your own plane.

Commercial flights are akin to public transportation. I'm sure people would LOVE to get on a public bus or train and do all sorts of things (smoke, listen to loud obnoxious music, lay down on the floor and sleep, etc, etc.) but the fact is...there are rules, regulations and ordinances in place for the public good.

People always throw the term "rights" around loosely. This isn't a situation where the government is forcing every person to purchase healthcare. There are several options and alternatives to commercial flights.

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If given the choice and all else being equal (plane make, flight cost/route) - of course many (most) would chose not to have strangers hands on themselves and their families with nude scans to boot.

Flying really isn't that dangerous.

The plane having a mechanical problem has nothing to do with anything.

It's not realistic for even the average rich person (15 mil.+) to BUY A PLANE.

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Good for Texas.

The TSA will not be banning anything. Money talks and in this case TSA walks.

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No Texas backed down immediately so not to violate federal law.

The fact that the foundation of this countries governance has gotten to the point that elected representatives of all levels have lost their legal ability to perform their intended function took a long time for me to come to grips with and it will take much much longer for the country as a whole to realize.

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If given the choice and all else being equal (plane make, flight cost/route) - of course many (most) would chose not to have strangers hands on themselves and their families with nude scans to boot.

Flying really isn't that dangerous.

The plane having a mechanical problem has nothing to do with anything.

It's not realistic for even the average rich person (15 mil.+) to BUY A PLANE.

How are you not embarrassed by saying some of the things you say.

Flying isn't a right. Just like healthcare isn't a right. A right is something that you're born with. The government cannot issue you a right, nor can it take it away.

Just like the PRIVELAGE to drive, or the PRIVELAGE to enter into a legal marriage (in the eyes of the state).

I'm sure there are a lot of folks who don't like wearing seatbelts. There are a lot of folks who don't like to pay car insurance. There are people who literally, don't like removing their veil from their face in order to get a driver's license. But there's nothing in the constitution that guarantees you the "right" to fly without having to undergo security measures.

I personally, WELCOME any measure that makes it safer to fly. Flying isn't that dangerous from a mechanical standpoint, that wasn't my point. You should be embarassed at your comprehension.

My point was that people love to whine and complain sometimes. People in a terminal will moan and complain about the delay, no matter WHAT it is. In my mind, all I'm thinking is....take your time to fix the plane, there's nothing so important that I want to die in a plane crash over.

I agree that having x-rays/scans could pose health issues for some people (especially OCD types). But the TSA gives you the option.

I don't like it any more than the next guy, but at least I understand why they're doing it. You still have AN OPTION. You don't have to fly.

Again, it's PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. If you don't like it, then you can get a netjets membership, buy your own plane, take a bus, drive a car...WHATEVER. The point is, you have options.

Forcing you to buy healthcare isn't an option. Forcing you to use banks (via the Patriot act) isn't an option. FORCING you to get a driver's license or a social security card isn't an option.

I stand by my original logic in that if you truly gave people the option to fly on an airline that had ZERO security checks (and thus zero security nuisance) and flying under the current TSA measures, you'd find virtually no one would fly on the unsecure flights.

I do however agree that not everyone needs to be subjected to these additional pat down measures (or screening). But the ACLU in their altruistic intentions, has ensured that law enforcement agencies cannot use common sense. if they check one, they have to check them all....otherwise some liberal **** face cries racism or discrimination.

4 year old girls are not a security threat. Neither are 90 year old men. In my opinion, if you're Asian, Caucasian, Female, Older than 65, Younger than 12, etc, etc, then there's no "credible" threat as a terrorist and as such, we're wasting time and resources checking those people (just so we can spare the TSA from lawsuits and scrutiny from the ACLU types).

Again, if you don't like being discriminated against, then don't fly. Walk. Ride a bike. Whatever. Buy your own plane.

If none of that works for you, then suck it up like everyone else. I'm all for freedoms and liberties, but honestly, people are whining a LITTLE too much on this issue. This isn't big brother coming into your home or your business or forcing you to do something.

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Does anyone really believe the TSA has made flying safer? It's just another gov'ment brain fart.

It's kinda like when you try to buy a box of Sudafed at the drugstore. They have you fill out a form, check your ID and monitor your purchases so you don't by more than 9 grams a month. Lest you be starting your own Meth Lab.

Meanwhile back in the real world, meth labs are working overtime. I guess they must hire a bunch of folks to stand in line at Walgreens to get enough Sudafed to keep production running.

While the TSA is busy frisking children and old ladies, you know a bunch of jihadists somewhere are laughing themselves silly.

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