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@RM99 there was nothing libetarian about what you said it sounds more like liberal,...sharky

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No offence, but what an unfortunate portrayal of the American man to give an international audience, particularly on Memorial Day.

Something tells be you aren't Samoan.

If the fear of having to protect your children on a statistically proven safe trip is so acute that you would traumatize them with willingness to participate the past examples of dignity shedding behavior - here is a great site to look at.

http://attackproof.com/

I've had some instruction time from John Perkins only because I happened to meet him locally. Aside from having a great heart - he is one of the best at what he does period - no baloney.

After 9/11 he was hired to train the Federal Air Marshals.

After Pope John Paul was shot he was hired to train his personal bodyguards.

He's trained some of the most highly trained soldiers America produces.

He was Malcolm Forbes personal bodyguard way back. I'll stop with the sales pitch (all true).

Just please don't start accusing other of being untrustworthy, manipulative saboteurs for not pandering to your most particular of emotionally driven delusions. I don't dislike you but it had to be said by someone.

I am guessing that you are talking to me.

I think we are all a little Samoan. I am happy you have found a friend in this guy, but it doesn't change my opinion (my opinion) that corporations should not be in charge of public safety.

Mercenaries ("Contractors") as they call them now, also should not be fighting our wars either. I don't think WE should be fighting our wars.

As per it being Memorial day, I think about my lost brothers on many days more than just this day or Veteran's day. The day is not special to me, but the period in which I found out a friend died is... Or, the day our Politicians decide to start killing is... etc..

Peace is the only way. If only we could all drink the same punch.

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At the end of the day, what are you concerned about? Someone 'touching' you, someone seeing you 'naked'? Just curious because I really really really don't get it....

I will stand naked in front of the rest of the world laughing at me if it means my kids are safe... Maybe I will have to do that someday.

If you are so concern about your security and you are willing to give up liberty, there is already a place for it. It is calls maximum security. You are free to go there any day.

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If you are so concern about your security and you are willing to give up liberty, there is already a place for it. It is calls maximum security. You are free to go there any day.

Really, do I get a free butt raping while I am there.

You guys are funny.

Are you sure you believe in prisons as those are an infringment on our rights? Isn't it hang-em or let em' go?

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If you are so concern about your security and you are willing to give up liberty, there is already a place for it. It is calls maximum security. You are free to go there any day.

You do not have to fly if you don't want to. Or, you can private charter on a smaller airport, or you can get your license to fly. You have choices.... Don't blame others and the government if you can help it. Complaining about it does no good.

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@RM99

Commerce clause and 911 are up in debate.

Commerce clause is loosely define and you can basically put everything under commerce and congresses can have power over it.

As for 9-11, all planes have planned routes. They are regulated. You cannot just take it off the route just because you wanted too. When a plane is off the route, a flag is raise, action will be taken. Communication will send to the pilot. When that doesn't work, fighter jets will be sent. But it did not happened. Why is that?

Even after the first tower got hit, no jet is up in the air, why is that?

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You do not have to fly if you don't want to. Or, you can private charter on a smaller airport, or you can get your license to fly. You have choices.... Don't blame others and the government if you can help it. Complaining about it does no good.

A choice off limit by most people is not a choice.

But for you who want maximum security, you can walk in there any day.

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A reason for appreciating the freedom of being viewed as innocent, until proven guilty by a jury of your peers, is that even if government is all knowing and all good - letting them be all powerful puts you in a pickle if it ever changes.

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@RM99 there was nothing libetarian about what you said it sounds more like liberal,...sharky

I'm a libertarian, probably fair to describe me as a "hardcore" libertarian....but I also have to respect practicality and pragmatism.

Just because I vehemently support the 2nd Amendment, doesn't mean I support allowing guns in schools, even for teachers.

IF I had children, there's no way I'd want even adults to be carrying guns....it's a situation where I truly believe that there are more effective ways of curbing crime at schools.

So even though the idealist in me says that QUALIFIED and PROPERLY TRAINED individuals carrying firearms is a good thing, I question whether or not it's a practical or necessary to allow the government to "regulate" who's capable and qualified to carry a firearm around children.

The same goes with your right to privacy.

Again, this isn't the government telling you that you must get a pat down to operate your own personal vehicle. This isn't the government telling you that you have to get a patdown to operate your own personal aircraft.

This is the government acknowledging there are multiple and legitimate threats to air traffic security on PUBLIC, commercial transportation.

I said it before, all of you (I'm assuming) are operating in the same information shadow that I am....we don't know what threats (to what extent, how many, etc) are out there and what's prompting them to mandate the scans or patdowns. We really don't know the countless number of incidents these scans/pat downs have both uncovered and deterred.

All I know is this.....I, like 99% of other people....would choose a flight that mandated scans/pat downs over an equivalent flight that did not. Anything that makes the flight safer is in my opinion a good thing.

Additionally, it's not as big of a deal as some people are making it out to be. The TSA rep doesn't want to pat you down any more than you want to be patted down.

You could make this same argument for body scanners and pat downs at government buildings.....you could make a thousand equivalent arguments, but again, you're CHOOSING to fly.....no one is forcing you to fly....and no one is forcing you to fly public commercial.

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That's what you (or the government assume). I am sure if JFK has scan/pat down and Network pre Patriot Act security, I am sure Network will get a lot more business.

If you look at the face, ALL the school shot were happened a gun free zone. How the people in a gun free zone defend themselves? When a gun man show up, you going to stop him and pull up a sign "This is a gun free zone" and expect him to go away?

You assumption if gun is allow in school, all adult will be flashing gun in front of student. If drug is legalize, everyone WILL become a drug addicts.

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