This is going to be a different kind of post. A different kind of thread. Mike, in fact, might not want it here, but I'm going to put it here, because it needs to be here, and what I have to say needs to be said.

I have just removed NinjaTrader from my computer. Literally, I am done with it. I will not ever be using it ever again. I spent close to $500 buying indicators for it, and that's money wasted, as well.

The sad truth is that NinjaTrader is an unstable piece of junk. I truly wish that it wasn't a piece of junk -- really, I do. The non-stop freezing, the constant hang-ups, the complete inability of NinjaTrader to deal with any meaningful amount of tick data... all of these are deal-breakers for me.

They should also be deal-breakers for you.

Look, I run a very powerful system, here. Quad-core, 8GB of RAM, multiple monitors, cross-fired video cards, my own UPS (uninterruptable power supply) -- some of the most demanding Engineering software in the world doesn't crash my system -- but NinjaTrader somehow manages to crash itself constantly.

Listen to me:

When it comes to managing your own real money, I don't see how it can even be debated that platform stability is essential. I can not trust NinjaTrader to even run correctly -- let alone entrust it to trade for me.

The truth is that you can't trust it, either.

And if you've used it enough, you know it.

Those of you who are thinking about using NinjaTrader to automatize trading for you need to really think twice -- no joke, here. The "software" NinjaTrader sells is, in my opinion, the junkiest, buggiest, piece of amateurish crap I've seen in quite some time -- maybe all the way back to the spreadsheets of the 1980's. If I had purchased it, I would literally file a suit at law to obtain my money back -- and not because I even care about the money: this junk they're selling is pure garbage.

You, as a trader, deserve better. And you should NOT settle for this kind of shoddy, second-rate crap to trade with.

Mike, thanks for creating a very cool forum here, and thanks for all the free indicators and advice. It's a very cool thing you've put together here for everybody, no question about it.

But the sad truth is that NinjaTrader, as a platform, isn't worthy of all of this effort.

It's junk.

If your ninja 6.5 is crashing all the time one reason is your machine maybe have faulty memory, check with memory testing software your bios test sometimes can't find. I had this kind of situation.
I have four years old machine and ninja is stabile 6.5 and 7. lot of charts and back days, 1.5GB memory.

I agree Ninja Support is terrible, but ninjas programming language is best.

Generally I never use latest machine,operating systems or software for production for me or my customers.
Because there is allways some bugs, i start using them,when they proof to be production quality.

Here is another little problem. I applied a default SMA to smooth a Current Session VWAP. The smoothed version was completely off the Current Session VWAP, because the standard SMA of NinjaTrader does not work properly, if used with another indicator:

How to code a Simple Moving Average? I always thought that the SMA - the simple moving average - was one of the simplest indicators. But as it appears, it is not easy to code one that is working correctly. Standard Formula The standard formula for the SMA is well-known. You add up …

Had to recode my SMA. Also will have to recode other flawed indicators, as they show the same behaviour.

I am curious what NT support says about this?

Mike

While I understand that for some people NT isn't crashing daily. It is for me almost daily. When I run MC it's never crashing. It has nothing to do with OS or Memory. NT is just not a stable program. NT7 is better than NT6.5, but still not there.

I am curious what NT support says about this?

Mike