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Do I need a better computer?

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ScottyBee
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Have you run a test on what indicators are sucking the most from your machine.

NEW>NinjaScript Output>when that window shows up, righ-click, then open up a "NinjaScript Ultilization Monitor

Let it run for 10-20 minutes. I will list all your indicators. The ones are the top are pulling the most on your CPU.

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 gaz0001 
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Hello. My NT8 lags horribly on charts. Everything starts and operates great for a few minutes, then it begins to lag. As you move the crosshair around, it "jitters". When you click on something, there is a second delay. Driving me crazy. I have tried a lot of the suggestions from NT forums, but doesn't seem to help. Restarting helps for a few minutes. It gets really bad if I don't restart everyday. Here are my specs attached
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I have an i7 6th Gen with 16gb of slow ram.

There could be a number of reasons it's slow, but I'm sure the computer is a big factor.
Time to upgrade your 8 year old machine to start with.

My computer is newer than yours and it also lags.
I can see from then logs that is very often hits 100% utilisation.

NT8 also has issues with ram.
With your ram being so slow and old, thst creates an even bigger problem.

The developers of NT8 surely dont use or test on a 4th gen cpu.

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 fryguy2 
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Might try these steps below to speed things up.

https://youtu.be/Ch6MibrACgM

Also

http://www.nobstrades.com/blog/2018/9/25/hunctz2b0lf9kxr2wvwnww218rnbze

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 JimWalker 
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I have read many good suggestions in this thread. The best is to buy a new trading computer. After removing all the preinstalled crud, use it exclusively for trading.

In the meantime, I have two NinjaTrader ECOSYSTEM submissions "Set Process Priority To High, Giving It Preference Over Other Applications That Are Running."

The NT8 Version, with 815 downloads is:

https://ninjatraderecosystem.com/user-app-share-download/set-process-priority-to-high-giving-it-preference-over-other-applications-that-are-running-2/

The NT7 Version, with 532 downloads is:

https://ninjatraderecosystem.com/user-app-share-download/set-process-priority-to-high-giving-it-preference-over-other-applications-that-are-running/

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 Scott Tafel 
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Hello, the first thing you want to do before purchasing a new computer is verify if the machine is at fault. This is pretty easy to do. You will want to open up the task manager in Windows (right-click on your start button). Then you will want to select the "Performance" tab, right click on the CPU Graph and select "Change graph to" and then click on Logical Processors. You want to look for if one or more of your CPU threads are maxed out. The example that I provided is highlighted in red. If your CPU isn't maxing out when the problem occurs, the issue isn't with your computer but rather with an indicator or something to do with the NinjaTrader Platform or internet service. You have 32 GB of memory which is plenty for NinjaTrader unless you are leaving it on for more than a week, and the graphics cards don't make a difference when calculating the data that ultimately ends up on your chart. You should look at your Ninjatrader Log and see if any red flags are popping up. Ninjatrader 8 is Multi-Threaded, but if the indicator or strategy that you are using isn't properly coded then it will still run on a single thread which will cause the whole platform to lock up if that thread it maxed out.







To help with the indicators and narrow down the ones that. Are taking up the most CPU usage, use the following steps:



Click NEW > NinjaScript Output > when that window shows up, right-click, then open up a "NinjaScript Utilization Monitor.



Let the monitor run for 10-20 minutes. All your indicators will be listed, with those using up the most CPU at the top.



If you are in the market for a new machine, I love my Trading Computer from https://www.tradingcomputers.com/. I would check them out. Their machines are amazing, and the one or two times I've called for the support line, they have helped me immensely.



This article helps understand how the Trading Platform interfaces with the processor and how to select the best processor for your trading platform.

https://www.falcontradingsystems.com/expert-center/guide/trading-computers-processor-selection.html



If you want to read about how internet speed affects your trading, I found this article very informative.

https://www.falcontradingsystems.com/expert-center/guide/trading-computers-internet-service-selection.html

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 abualhan 
New York
 
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Hello. My NT8 lags horribly on charts. Everything starts and operates great for a few minutes, then it begins to lag. As you move the crosshair around, it "jitters". When you click on something, there is a second delay. Driving me crazy. I have tried a lot of the suggestions from NT forums, but doesn't seem to help. Restarting helps for a few minutes. It gets really bad if I don't restart everyday. Here are my specs attached
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I have the same issue, and I hope you get a solution.
For me it depends on the number of indicators I run on the charts and if it’s using tick data or calculation on close! Tick data usually the worst performance!
For me restart helps along with resetting database from database management and deleting previous orders! I have to do that every week or after some back testing!
I wonder if someone would give a concrete solution as it’s highly dependent on the indicators you are using and how optimized is its code!

Try also increasing the virtual memory size on your computer setting to help in swapping!

Good luck

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 TonyA 
Toronto, Ontario
 
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Well, perhaps what I'm about to say it's not a solution for you but it's what I did for a long time.
IMHO, NT8 is still in a developing state, because memory issues continue all the time. I'm an old user of NT7, and despite it being an older version, it shows powerful management of your computer resources and still allows my simple automated Algos. For now, I'll continue with NT7. If I were you, I'd evaluate what I need to do in NT8 for my business and evaluate if that activity could be done through NT7.


check the days back on the DataSeries for all your charts.
if you are running fast charts ( with lots of bars) reduce your days back to 1 day.
This will reduce the load on the platform.

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 JimWalker 
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Well, perhaps what I'm about to say it's not a solution for you but it's what I did for a long time.
IMHO, NT8 is still in a developing state, because memory issues continue all the time. I'm an old user of NT7, and despite it being an older version, it shows powerful management of your computer resources and still allows my simple automated Algos. For now, I'll continue with NT7. If I were you, I'd evaluate what I need to do in NT8 for my business and evaluate if that activity could be done through NT7.

Agree 100%. My plan is to consider moving to NT8 when development starts on NT9.

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 doyalalexander 
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Hello. My NT8 lags horribly on charts. Everything starts and operates great for a few minutes, then it begins to lag. As you move the crosshair around, it "jitters". When you click on something, there is a second delay. Driving me crazy. I have tried a lot of the suggestions from NT forums, but doesn't seem to help. Restarting helps for a few minutes. It gets really bad if I don't restart everyday. Here are my specs attached
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I have NT8 loading 2000 days of data for 1, 3, 9, 30, 120, 240 min and daily chart, and load 4 days on 5s and 20 second. And it runs fine on i9 with 32Gb. That said, I lagged really bad in WiFi. When I wired into my router everything worked like a champ.

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brmicha2000
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Hello. My NT8 lags horribly on charts. Everything starts and operates great for a few minutes, then it begins to lag. As you move the crosshair around, it "jitters". When you click on something, there is a second delay. Driving me crazy. I have tried a lot of the suggestions from NT forums, but doesn't seem to help. Restarting helps for a few minutes. It gets really bad if I don't restart everyday. Here are my specs attached
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Do you just have a one clean chart running with no indicators? Maybe a custom indicator is causing the slowness. Custom drawing of all of history done by indicators can be very slow. Also, you could try looking at less history on the chart as well. This computer is fine, as long as there is nothing wrong with it, like it has bad memory, bad hard drive.

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