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llnw is Limelight Networks, it's a content delivery network -- they have access points globally. So Italy is probably just the closest one to you, or the one chosen at the time you started Ninja.

If you look at futures.io (formerly BMT) pages you'll see a CDN here too, and the CDN node for you will be different than me, as I am in Dallas and you are not. futures.io (formerly BMT) uses Amazon S3 CloudFront and they have nodes worldwide. So what you are seeing is someone who has contracted with llnw for a service, all you see is that end point, you would need to research it more (might be able to find the customer by examining the CNAME record) to see who or what it really is.

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llnw is Limelight Networks, it's a content delivery network -- they have access points globally. So Italy is probably just the closest one to you, or the one chosen at the time you started Ninja.

If you look at futures.io (formerly BMT) pages you'll see a CDN here too, and the CDN node for you will be different than me, as I am in Dallas and you are not. futures.io (formerly BMT) uses Amazon S3 CloudFront and they have nodes worldwide. So what you are seeing is someone who has contracted with llnw for a service, all you see is that end point, you would need to research it more (might be able to find the customer by examining the CNAME record) to see who or what it really is.

Mike

Yes, I have looked at BigMikes of course. As I have never met you in person, I am suspicious and do not believe in your generosity.

BigMike's Forum uses server-216-137-61-236.fra2.cloudfront.net, which is Amazon in Seattle (information retrieved from www.ipaddress.com)

I have now pinged Big Mikes and the Cloudfront server, and there is a siginificant difference in speed.

TraceRoute:

BigMike's Chicago -> 131 ms
Amazon Cloudfront Frankfurt-> 19 ms

Ping:

Big Mike's Chicago -> 139 ms
Amazon Cloudfront Frankfurt-> 31 ms

So looks as if it is working!

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We're going but the CDN changes IP's frequently, like in Dallas there are many IP's and edge nodes. I am sure is same in Europe -- so each time you ping cdn.bigmiketrading.com you will see a different IP in a small group of IP's in rotation for your region. You also shouldn't focus on where the IP address is registered or where it shows on some IP registry geolocation map service --- you should look at the ping time as latency is what the CDN is all about. Of course here the primary purpose of this thread is not CDN, but security. Just a quick guesstimate from the A-record you posted above, "fra2" most likely means Frankfurt since you are in Germany, and the traffic is coming from your region.

Here is a small utility for measuring world wide latency. Here cdn.bigmiketrading.com is just a CNAME. Amazon CloudFront will then handle deciding a geographically appropriate destination region, and then from there it will go to a pool of servers in that region. The same is true of Limelight in your NT example.

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We're going but the CDN changes IP's frequently, like in Dallas there are many IP's and edge nodes. I am sure is same in Europe -- so each time you ping cdn.bigmiketrading.com you will see a different IP in a small group of IP's in rotation for your region. You also shouldn't focus on where the IP address is registered or where it shows on some IP registry geolocation map service --- you should look at the ping time as latency is what the CDN is all about. Of course here the primary purpose of this thread is not CDN, but security. Just a quick guesstimate from the A-record you posted above, "fra2" most likely means Frankfurt since you are in Germany, and the traffic is coming from your region.

Here is a small utility for measuring world wide latency. Here cdn.bigmiketrading.com is just a CNAME. Amazon CloudFront will then handle deciding a geographically appropriate destination region, and then from there it will go to a pool of servers in that region. The same is true of Limelight in your NT example.

just ping - Online ping - Online web-based ping: Free online ping from 50 locations worldwide

Mike


Have changed my post, while you were posting yours, as I checked the servers via Ping, Now also have checked the other server from Limelight Network, which is used by NinjaTrader, It is also located in Frankfurt, not in Italy. The information from IP address - The best IP address tools at IPaddress.com is not reliable.

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After giving this considerable thought, I would like to present the TMFT Top 10 List;

1. I have an extra tin foil hat you can wear. I attached a pic of me in mine. Gotta admit it looks pretty spiffy.

2. As long as the connection isn't to Guantanamo Bay... I wouldn't be too concerned.

3. You should see all the stuff those porn sites do to my computer.

4. Simple solution, don't use the internet. Unfortunately, trying to phone your orders in while scalping has always been difficult for me.

5. Get a job in a Prop Shop. Of course they will expect you to get dressed to trade there.

6. Sit in your brokers office and tell them to enter the trades for you. Have to warn you though, those $50 transaction fees kill my profits.

7. Just Sim Trade... that won't make you any money... but it will waste their time and teach them a lesson for watching what you are doing.

8. Trade from a computer at the public library and use anonymous pseudo address sites. I kept getting distracted by the hot librarians.

9. Send them a text message saying you need their help to get $1,000,000 out of your secret bank account and if they will wire you $500 you will split the $1,000,000 with them.

10. Ignore them and make a fortune trading instead.


Just messing with ya...

That hat is my native attire design we call "Abeti-aja"; which means dog's hears, 'cos it is dog's hears-like; but we use real clothing materials (not foil) to sew it. Our Hunters wear it for hunting in the bush. That should really protect you

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I just started NinjaTrader and had a look at my monitoring tool to see what it does.

Even prior to establishing any connection with a data provider, NinjaTrader is heavily involved in setting up between 3 and 6 simultaneous connections. How can I know what it is doing?

<snip>

Is there anybody who has checked NinjaTrader for establishing internet connections and give me an explanation of this?

I know of someone who dedicates one computer just for trading - no internet or email at all. He uses a whitelist in his firewall to allow only those sites required for trading, but I don't believe that he uses NT. You might try disabling some of the questionable IP addresses to see if if impacts your ability to log-in, obtain data, etc.

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I know of someone who dedicates one computer just for trading - no internet or email at all. He uses a whitelist in his firewall to allow only those sites required for trading, but I don't believe that he uses NT. You might try disabling some of the questionable IP addresses to see if if impacts your ability to log-in, obtain data, etc.

I think that this is rather harmless, to be honest. I was just astonished by the complexity, as I could not imagine that NT7 would establish 6 different connections into the internet prior to connecting.

Maybe we are just a bit naive.

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Follow the link in #1 to see more info on the TT credits.

Basically, TT patented the static DOM, and so make everyone pay to use that feature.

The issue though is that the TT patent should be invalidated, but the way these things normally work, it is too expensive for Ninja (or anyone) to fight the original patent, so they settle. Settling was easy because it just screws the users not the vendor.

It should be noted that other brokerages (mine included) are still paying this fee (or I should the users are), but it is built into your commission rate. When you use the TT interface that Ninja collects credits for, the fee is not built in, so the user has to pay it as they go.

How do you patent a software concept like a static DOM? There has to be a way to implement the same functionality around the restrictions of that patent, something like scrolling the dynamic DOM 1 row and then back to the original position, or something like that. I'm sure there is a way to get around that patent. And, why doesn't NT just drop the static DOM and be done with it? If sounds like more trouble then it's worth, given that only a minute percentage of users are using it. I think every company and product using the static DOM and paying TT, should just drop the static DOM altogether and screw TT over good.

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This is Hans Moleman. Why does he appear several times in the internet connection of NinjaTrader?

Is he a typical trader using NinjaTrader? What is the average age of traders using NinjaTrader?

There are still lots of conundrums out there...

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Just a guess that it is parsing an XML file. The top of XML files are stamped with their version info with a w3 URL and the coder is taking it literally by reading the format from w3.

An example:
SOAP Header Element

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