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NT7 memory use & 32- / 64-bit

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I will be using other sources of historical data. However, I did not know about dll mismatches and since I plan on protecting my codes with RemoteSoft for different people, that's bad news.

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For ZF feed, which still 32-bit only, the idea is to:
- get the tick data using NT7 32-bit (a simple backtest)
- optimize the strategy using NT7 64-bit (it will use the data downloaded previously by the 32 bit version, no need to be connected then).
With the 64-bit version, and large backtests optimization, I saw NT7 64 using more than 7 Gb, and give some reliable results.

I agree with Sam, on recent optimizations I was concurrently running several Virtual Box VM(4 @ Win7 Pro 64bit guests) with NT7 64bit installed, each VM had 16gb ram 'installed' + 2 'processors'[ to allow 64bit VM's to run correctly]. I pegged out at 50+GB on the host, and all ran very smoothly @ 80+% host's cpu cores except for the one VM I goofed on the setup (only 1 processor assigned). I will be resetting all the VM(now 6 @ Win7 Enterprise 64bit + NT7b19 64bit) to 8gb to see if I can crash anything.

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...on recent optimizations I was concurrently running several Virtual Box VM(4 @ Win7 Pro 64bit guests) with NT7 64bit installed, each VM had 16gb ram 'installed'...

Interesting, how much real physical memory do you have on the host? Linux or windows host? Thanks

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Interesting, how much real physical memory do you have on the host? Linux or windows host? Thanks

In reality, I dont have enough brain bandwith to use Linux, or am too busy with other priorities (take your pick) ... I grew up with TOS on Atari .. all GUI before Windoze ever released ... lol ..

Win7 x64 host OS .. I ran the box on XP x64 until Virtual Box came out with decent support for for Win7 ... for some reason it took some effort on their part to get shared folders working between host OS & guest OS

Tyan motherboard with 2@Opterons and 64gb DDR2 ECC ..not the fastest ram but it works. This is the real cruncher machine I got just to run VMs .. I was trying to get a support position with VMWare at one time, so I used it to self teach, but, as I said, Linux and I dont communicate very well at all, so now it runs NT7 and anything else I might find on my journey. Next step is Neural Nets, after I start making a living as a trader.

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Can anybody tell me what is the maximum efficient memory usage for nt7. Taskmanager for windows 7 64 is currently showing a 3.2 gigabyte footprint for nt7.exe. It seem to be running a fine, a bit sticky, but not that bad. I'm wondering what the implications are for order transmission and live trading... don't really want to take anything down, using a lot of days to get the weekly and monthly pivots on the charts, is this problematic or is running full-tilt like this doable? Thanks techie folks...

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Can anybody tell me what is the maximum efficient memory usage for nt7. Taskmanager for windows 7 64 is currently showing a 3.2 gigabyte footprint for nt7.exe. It seem to be running a fine, a bit sticky, but not that bad. I'm wondering what the implications are for order transmission and live trading... don't really want to take anything down, using a lot of days to get the weekly and monthly pivots on the charts, is this problematic or is running full-tilt like this doable? Thanks techie folks...

Using NT7 x64 means there is no longer a memory limit. So it will simply depend on how much RAM you have in your system. There is no undesired behavior of order transmission, etc, based solely on memory consumption. They problem would come should your system have inadequate memory, and begin swapping to disk and then you'll have huge latency and delays.

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Thanks Mike,

I have 12 gigs or so of memory but somewhere someways back I heard windows 7 can only use 4 gigs of it. Task manager shows I'm using up to 6 gigs. Does W7 have a limit as to how much of the memory it can use. All is ticking along well enough this morning, albeit..

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Thanks Mike,

I have 12 gigs or so of memory but somewhere someways back I heard windows 7 can only use 4 gigs of it. Task manager shows I'm using up to 6 gigs. Does W7 have a limit as to how much of the memory it can use. All is ticking along well enough this morning, albeit..

Are you using Windows 7 x64? If not, then you will be limited to 4GB of usable memory.

Memory Limits for Windows Releases

Is my PC running the 32-bit or 64-bit version of Windows?

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I'm going to get my new build up and running this week, i7-2600k, 16Gb of ddr3 ram, ssd hard drive, can't wait!
Am I going to be able to run Ninja 64 bit and connect to zenfire? Are all bugs gone now?

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I'm going to get my new build up and running this week, i7-2600k, 16Gb of ddr3 ram, ssd hard drive, can't wait!
Am I going to be able to run Ninja 64 bit and connect to zenfire? Are all bugs gone now?

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I believe the platform itself, and the Zen Fire 64-bit adapter, are considered "stable". Just keep in mind that if you have purchased any indicators from vendors and they sent them to you as obfuscated DLL's, they won't work. You can either trash them, or you can go back to vendor and ask for a x64 version of the DLL.

Running NT in 64-bit mode is really only necessary for backtesting. You could stick with the x86 version otherwise, there is no advantage to running x64 except for memory - and you don't need the extra memory unless you are backtesting.

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