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 artemiso 
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Is there a reason why NT8 does not enable accessibility to the Market Replay data format?

I would like to batch-download larger datasets of continuous contracts with clean data in order to carry out proper backtesting more efficiently in NT8.

Not entirely related to your question, but the data is certainly available even if the format isn't. You may want to see these discussions: and

FWIW you can reformat your data to get it to work if it's really important for your strategy. The data doesn't seem to be encrypted or compressed as the bytes aren't uniformly distributed:



And usually market data has repeating sequences for the common part of timestamps:



which also have to increase, so you can back out if it's written in big or little endian order when you see the least significant bits increasing e.g. 0x03, 0x04, ..., 0x0e, 0x0f:


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 Silent warrior 
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NT8’s enhanced Strategy builder, Backtesting capabilities, and multithreading technology without the capability to batch-download larger datasets (Market Replay data for continuous contracts) is like having a much nicer car but no tires to drive it on.

Mr. Deux, respectfully, please commit resources and a timeline to resolve this. You can also choose tomake the replay data format open source, allowing each individual to use their own datafeed to download market replay data, and therefore avoid a data bottleneck.

Remember, “Without the data, you’re just another guy with an opinion”.

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NT8’s enhanced Strategy builder, Backtesting capabilities, and multithreading technology without the capability to batch-download larger datasets (Market Replay data for continuous contracts) is like having a much nicer car but no tires to drive it on.

Mr. Deux, respectfully, please commit resources and a timeline to resolve this. You can also choose tomake the replay data format open source, allowing each individual to use their own datafeed to download market replay data, and therefore avoid a data bottleneck.

Remember, “Without the data, you’re just another guy with an opinion”.

It's maybe for another thread but there might be a way to decipher the Ninja 8 market replay file format:
1/ connect Ninja to the External data feed
2/ set the "Enable market recording for playback"
3/ inject your own data through the external connector
4/ rename the .nrd file
5/ modify an element of your input market data file
6/repeat 3/4 and compare the .nrd file

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Mr. Deux, respectfully, please commit resources and a timeline to resolve this.

committing to a timeline is not the NinjaTrader way.. lol... even for things they definitely intend to do.

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My apologies, I re-read your post and although there was not a direct question, I see your request to commit to a feature. This request is on our list of potential improvements that we may consider in the future.

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 markkm 
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Would there be any updates to include Walk forward Cluster analysis (matrix), robustness performance, input sensitivity ?
TradeStation, Multicharts all have that.


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Exactly! All those seem like logical and very appropriate “want” requests. However, batch-downloading continuous contact Market Replay Data falls squarely within the very basic “Need” category even to carry out entry-level backtesting.


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 markkm 
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Would there be any updates to include Walk forward Cluster analysis (matrix), robustness performance, input sensitivity ?
TradeStation, Multicharts all have that.


Sensitivity Analysis
Cluster Analysis Evaluating Re-Optimization
Frequently Asked Questions

https://www.multicharts.com/trading-software/index.php/Walk_Forward_Optimization




People have been asking for that for a long time.

https://forum.ninjatrader.com/forum/suggestions-and-feedback/suggestions-and-feedback-aa/64744-walk-forward-cluster-analysis-and-nt8?t=63739&highlight=walk+forward

Tradestation had the technology since mid 2000.

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 markkm 
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Exactly! All those seem like logical and very appropriate “want” requests. However, batch-downloading continuous contact Market Replay Data falls squarely within the very basic “Need” category even to carry out entry-level backtesting.


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Agree! Another one that was requested a long time ago. I really wonder why they don't want to include it.

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