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Ninjatrader 8 not ready for prime time?

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 bobc635 
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I have been using NT8 daily now for 8 months. It has been a bit rough along the way, no doubt. Once I discovered clearing the cache and data sets before startup part of my daily routine before startup, life has been good. It now runs very stable and has no perceivable lag even in the fastest times in the market (CL Inventory report for instance). I find support to be very good. I am hopeful that they will continue to make advancements so that we do not have to do as much maintenance.

I wrote a small batch file to automatically clear the data and cache sets so it takes about a second to clear the data sets.



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NT are not progressing nor developing.Support is so lazy that some requests that been made DECADE ago are still hanging on the support forum unanswered.They are not competitive anymore and will probably run out of business in a few years from now.Very wasteful and sad.I wish i would`ve spent that much time on it!


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NT are not progressing nor developing.Support is so lazy that some requests that been made DECADE ago are still hanging on the support forum unanswered.They are not competitive anymore and will probably run out of business in a few years from now.Very wasteful and sad.I wish i would`ve spent that much time on it!



Re-ask or resubmit your questions, statements, ideas or what have you.

If I'm going to respond honestly I am forced to say this: Ninjatrader is only $1000 a bit more for multi broker, peanuts in this business. I've deleted indicators I bought that cost more than this (crapola) as well as an entire platform. Count it as a business deal that did not work out, your risk, and move on... if NT is not for you. It can't be for everyone, nothing is.

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Once I discovered clearing the cache and data sets before startup part of my daily routine before startup, life has been good. .

I remember this procedure used to make TradeStation much less likely to crash..

So, assuming one has backed up NT8, am I correct in thinking that this is a simple procedure (with the program closed) of going Documents>NinjaTrader 8>db>cache>delete the folders therein (as opposed to only the contents of the folders?) ?

I presently have the following folders in the cache :


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Hi JTrade
There are two cache folders as well as day, minute and tick.... I clear them all.... I made the bat file for the entire year so I dont have to worry about the monthly roll of CL. Here is my bat file as a txt file... you can use it as an example for your files... My file structure may be(probably is) different than yours. I use "I" drive rather than C or D....so be careful !!!! It must be run out of the Ninjatrader 8 directory. There are methods to make the bat file more simple. If someone wants to show me how to simplify it, then I am appreciative.

Bob





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I remember this procedure used to make TradeStation much less likely to crash..

So, assuming one has backed up NT8, am I correct in thinking that this is a simple procedure (with the program closed) of going Documents>NinjaTrader 8>db>cache>delete the folders therein (as opposed to only the contents of the folders?) ?

I presently have the following folders in the cache :



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Hi JTrade
There are two cache folders as well as day, minute and tick.... I clear them all.... I made the bat file for the entire year so I dont have to worry about the monthly roll of CL. Here is my bat file as a txt file... you can use it as an example for your files... My file structure may be(probably is) different than yours. I use "I" drive rather than C or D....so be careful !!!! It must be run out of the Ninjatrader 8 directory. There are methods to make the bat file more simple. If someone wants to show me how to simplify it, then I am appreciative.

Bob

Thanks !

To be clear, by "clear them all", you mean you delete the folders within the cache folders, eg. in my screenshot, I'd simply delete the 4 folders shown (thereby deleting the data contained within them) ? I'd then repeat for the other folders you mention.

I remember this is more or less what I did years ago with TradeStation and it recreated any required sub-folders on startup.

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You can delete the folders and NT will re-create as needed. I think the cache problem is somewhat common....

Let me know how this works out for you...

Bob

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You can delete the folders and NT will re-create as needed. I think the cache problem is somewhat common....

Let me know how this works out for you...

Bob

It's exactly the same under NT7. Just older.

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You can delete the folders and NT will re-create as needed. I think the cache problem is somewhat common....

Let me know how this works out for you...

Bob

Definitely a very positive difference, thank-you, Bob

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Definitely a very positive difference, thank-you, Bob

... but the trouble is that it seems this needs to be done every morning before the trading sessions starts

I have set up Metatrader MT4 for my H4 FX charts - frankly, it gives me everything I need - & have just also set up tick charts within MT4. This coming week I am going to see if intraday trading using the (simple) MT4 DOM is workable... (no futures, so will use the Ger30 DAX CFD, a sensible alternative to the DAX Mini Futures contract, FDXM; not available to US traders, I'm afraid).

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My honest opinion is you don't have the proper computer hardware. I have a robust machine and push and run NT8 hard and have absolutely zero issues with NT8 performance.

CPU performance I monitor with Process Hacker and NT8 is never above 12% for NT8 (I can monitor each app separately) once running and connected to data.

Booting up NT8 it's CPU % hit 80% at times. As I said I run NT8 hard in my business.

I would direct you to Trading Computers and to look at the their top system for a complete NT8 awesome experience.

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Dude, you completely missed the point of what I was saying. But thanks. It's about running multiple instances of various algos on a leased VPS server....not running one discretionary trading platform instance on a local machine...which I have full physical control over. But I fully get your point, and you're right about NT8 taking a fair amount of resources.

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