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Thanks for the info. Are you using time or tick/volume charts? It could matter.

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All of them are time based charts except two tick based charts (3500 & 9000 Tick). Notices nothing abnormal as of now - will keep a close watch.

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I did a test with 8 charts, like Volume, UniRenko, Ticks and Time with some indicators and each with 100 or more days to load and I have no problem at all.

Before I start NT8 I clean the DB cache, then I Reload All Historical Data and at the end I turn of the Antivirus and sometimes the Firewall.

I noticed that when a lot of data comes in, like EIA, the Antivirus and the Firewall uses up to 50% of my CPU and everything freezes.

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Michael, is this on your UniRenko charts, or volume and/or time (if you use them)?

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It does it on all charts, and mostly when the market is experiencing a burst of volume. Rory and several other former TSJ folks have encountered the same problem, and we've all complained to Ninja in recent weeks. Some of the closes in the past two weeks have been untradeable because you can't even get the mouse over the order button in a timely fashion. It's a real and costly pain in the arse.

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I did a test with 8 charts, like Volume, UniRenko, Ticks and Time with some indicators and each with 100 or more days to load and I have no problem at all.

Before I start NT8 I clean the DB cache, then I Reload All Historical Data and at the end I turn of the Antivirus and sometimes the Firewall.

I noticed that when a lot of data comes in, like EIA, the Antivirus and the Firewall uses up to 50% of my CPU and everything freezes.

Michael

Interesting info. I'm glad that you don't have the issue.

As I read @NinjaTrader's post, some users still have an issue and some don't. I imagine that in some cases it may just be a matter of hardware, or something like graphic drivers, that NT is having some trouble with (a pure guess, but I've found that "it's the drivers" is sometimes actually the right answer. Go figure.) But who knows?

I'm waiting for an NT fix. I never had any issue at all with NT7, nor with any other platform I've ever used, so I am sure that NT will get it right eventually.

I will look into the cache, file and and DB fixes. I haven't yet, but they may help.

As to the antivirus and firewall, nothing on this earth is going to convince me to ever turn off either while I'm connected to the internet -- I am sure you're right about the increased CPU use (it doesn't freeze anything on my machine, but the percentage does go up), but if I have to give up some NT performance for safety, I'll just give the crosshair up. No contest.

Good to know that others are running a lot of stuff on their charts without any problems, though.

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It does it on all charts, and mostly when the market is experiencing a burst of volume. Rory and several other former TSJ folks have encountered the same problem, and we've all complained to Ninja in recent weeks. Some of the closes in the past two weeks have been untradeable because you can't even get the mouse over the order button in a timely fashion. It's a real and costly pain in the arse.

Michael

I've had exactly the same thing; you just can't use Chart Trader, or any other order method, at all, with the crosshair turned on when it's bouncing around or freezing like that

When I turn off the crosshair and just use the regular arrow mouse cursor, everything is fine -- the problem is that then you don't have a price line on your chart at the mouse position, which has its own usability issues.

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As to the antivirus and firewall, nothing on this earth is going to convince me to ever turn off either while I'm connected to the internet

You are right.

For that I have 2 Window 10 on my computer.
One is for privat stuff.

The other one is only for trading, it contains the absolute minimum of program I need to trade. And I visit only about 4 web pages I'm absolutely sure that it doesn't contend bad stuff.
The days of searching Holly Grail indicators on suspicious websites are in the past.
At the end of the day cookies and historical data from the internet will be deleted.

I do this since about 5 years and never had a problem.

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For that I have 2 Window 10 on my computer.


Hi - please excuse my ignorance, but do you mean your "trading copy" of Windows 10 is on the same computer as the "general use" copy, so that when trading you are effectively running a single-purpose, dedicated trading computer only ?

If so, I will ask my computer guy to install another copy of Windows 7 and try it : from my Black Viper services strip down, I have the strong feeling that less is more when running NT8.

I love NT8 when it works. Clearing the db every few days helps a great deal, but sooner or later a saved chart template or workspace will require rebuilding...

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Hi - please excuse my ignorance, but do you mean your "trading copy" of Windows 10 is on the same computer as the "general use" copy, so that when trading you are effectively running a single-purpose, dedicated trading computer only ?

If so, I will ask my computer guy to install another copy of Windows 7 and try it : from my Black Viper services strip down, I have the strong feeling that less is more when running NT8.

I love NT8 when it works. Clearing the db every few days helps a great deal, but sooner or later a saved chart template or workspace will require rebuilding...

I don't know you can call it a copy of Windows. I have 2 partition on my SSD and each one has a Windows 10, from the same installation file. Each OS was installed separately and it is not made with an PC image (Acronis)

Some info:
https://www.pcworld.com/article/2899088/how-to-install-two-or-more-operating-systems-on-one-pc.html

I had never a problem with my chart templates, but yes a lot of problem with the workspace.
I have a clean workspace and on every rollover I change to that one.

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I have unfortunately started to have quite a few stability issues with the latest release.
NT8 seems to just randomly crash when I load up a new symbol which I do many times a day because I trade equities.
I’ve tried the cache clearing file and it doesn’t seem to help much

I even discovered a bug in this version where global cursor tracking doesn’t work correctly if you have multiple chart windows with overlaid indicators. Obviously I reported the issue to Ninjatrader who said they knew about it but this doesn’t inspire confidence in the software.


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OK So after further testing, I have discovered that the global cursor is a complete mess. I have global cursor between three multi-timeframe charts which have various indicators. Ninjatrader seemed to randomly crash all the time, even multiple times in the space of a few minutes.

I have now turned off the global cursor and NT8 seems to have become more stable.

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OK So after further testing, I have discovered that the global cursor is a complete mess. I have global cursor between three multi-timeframe charts which have various indicators. Ninjatrader seemed to randomly crash all the time, even multiple times in the space of a few minutes.

I have now turned off the global cursor and NT8 seems to have become more stable.

Can you please send in an email to our support so we can look into this further referencing this post attention to Ray? I researched your last post and could not find any support ticket referencing a global cross hair issue that my team confirmed. I am not saying you didn't send anything in, just that we can't locate it.

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