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Hello friends,

I'm using Ninja at home and at the office and replicate the user directory with onedrive. This works nearly perfect.
The only one that doesnt work ist to draw a line in a chart at home and to replicate the line in the chart at the office, if this line is not marked as global.

I understand that the two charts are not the same so this is the reason for this behaviour but maybe someone has a solution or an idea to get this working.

I dont want to use the global Function because i dont want every drawing object in all charts. Its a mess in the longer timeframes.

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Hello friends,

I'm using Ninja at home and at the office and replicate the user directory with onedrive. This works nearly perfect.
The only one that doesnt work ist to draw a line in a chart at home and to replicate the line in the chart at the office, if this line is not marked as global.

I understand that the two charts are not the same so this is the reason for this behaviour but maybe someone has a solution or an idea to get this working.

I dont want to use the global Function because i dont want every drawing object in all charts. Its a mess in the longer timeframes.

Thanks in advance
Regards, futurewiz

An alternative is to make one machine the 'Master', keep it always on
and with the other use a remote viewer to take control (teamviewer, remote desktop, ... ) ?

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Thanks rleplae for your suggestion. I like working without borders ;-), it is fantastic.

Are there any other suggestions to get a solution. Is there maybe an Indikator, that saves all Drawings in a file that can be imported to another chart?

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I did a quick test, trying to find out where the drawing is stored, i thought in one of the xml's
workspace, but didn't see it immediately,
maybe i overlooked it, ...

Couldn't quickly find it, ..

@sam028 any thoughts ?

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I did a quick test, trying to find out where the drawing is stored, i thought in one of the xml's
workspace, but didn't see it immediately,
maybe i overlooked it, ...

Couldn't quickly find it, ..

@sam028 any thoughts ?

The charts are in the worskpace xml's and will transfer between machines (and db, templates, etc, etc) , I did it just today.

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The charts are in the worskpace xml's and will transfer between machines (and db, templates, etc, etc) , I did it just today.

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But if the object is not flagged as global it won't be in any xml files, so we're back to square 1 .
And if synchronize folders don't work I don't see any easy solution.

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But if the object is not flagged as global it won't be in any xml files, so we're back to square 1 .
And if synchronize folders don't work I don't see any easy solution.





Well, I just transferred this non-global blue dashed line from home to office using just the workspace .xml file. maybe it only works for short distances.

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Well, I just transferred this non-global blue dashed line from home to office using just the workspace .xml file. maybe it only works for short distances.

Cheers

So the original method, sync two folders, should have worked???

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So the original method, sync two folders, should have worked???

Depends if there were any open r/t locks in place that would have prevented it I guess, I'm not familiar with the folder sharing product or whether Ninja locks it's open workspace files, but I wouldn't think so. If he saved the workspaces ok I don't see why it couldn't work with care.

All the chart objects are certainly carried in the .xml file, you can see and edit them easily enough in WordPad.

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Monitor configurations are not the same

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On the two pc, so loading the same workspace is not possible

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Sure, it depends how you structure your chart spaces. I use a 4 monitor main station (only 3 for Ninja) in the office and a dual screen laptop at home. Each chart has a relative position set from the 'Main' Windows monitor in complete (all monitors) X, Y pixel space, -ve is left or up from top left at (0, 0), +ve is right and down.

You will see the positions in the .xml files under the LOCATION tags, again easy to see/carefully edit in WordPad.

I don't transfer workspaces across very often but it is easy enough once you know for sure that Ninja doesn't help itself, so you have to work a bit harder. Situation normal and still 500X better than Microsoft. E.g. in this case just reset all LOCATION tags to 0;0 and all charts will stack at top left to start with. This is also a fast way to recover missing charts/output windows/alert windows/databoxes.

If you want to actively and frequently switch between machines without using remote viewers then you have to be realistic and align your monitor configurations as best you can or just be prepared to use only 'common screen ground' for shareable charts, or hand edit the .xml files for less frequent transports.

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Hi ratfink,

thanks for your clarifications. It was really helpful. I trade from Mo - Th with friends in our Office and the other Time at home. At the Office i use 2 40" 4K Monitors and at Home the screens, that come before.



i like to make my daily Plan at Home and use it at the office.

In my configuration, iis not possible to transfer the workspace xml so i have to buy the same screens like in the office, and everything is fine.

In the meantime i reduce the Number of Ninja Windows and have a look at the workspace.xml. That was the missing link for me.

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Hi ratfink,

thanks for your clarifications. It was really helpful. I trade from Mo - Th with friends in our Office and the other Time at home. At the Office i use 2 40" 4K Monitors and at Home the screens, that come before.



i like to make my daily Plan at Home and use it at the office.

In my configuration, iis not possible to transfer the workspace xml so i have to buy the same screens like in the office, and everything is fine.

In the meantime i reduce the Number of Ninja Windows and have a look at the workspace.xml. That was the missing link for me.

Thanks ratfink, sam028 and rleplae

It might not be as hard as you imagine, all those monitors will be one big joined pixel space (should be 3,4,5,6 in -ve X, 1,7,2 +ve X), +/-Y mixture from top-left of 1), have fun playing hunt the chart anyway!

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Might help once you have defined a 'common' area of monitor real estate, and then break up big workspaces into smaller workspaces and grouped subsets in FlipCharts. I used to have to see everything all the time, now I find my brain less stressed with some of my lower timeframe charts hidden unless I really need them.

Anyway 2 X 40" monitors, pah. Envy. It is funny though, I used to have an almost identical 7 monitor collection, now a couple have died/been stolen by children/borrowed by cats/replaced, etc I just use 3+1 in office and dual at home, the group switch is so fast in FlipCharts that it no longer matters.

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Thanks for this perfect suggestion.

I made a new workspace only for these charts and position these charts on Monitor 1.
Then I syncronize only this workspace betwen the PC's.

I will test this szenario in the next week and post the news ;-)

Big Thanks for the help. I appreciate that.

Just for the Record:
Drawing Objects which are not marked as global are saved in the xml file in the workspace folder containing these charts

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