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IB's data is terrible because of the pacing and more importantly because of the snapshot data. Stop defending your decision to be cheap and move on...



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Big Mike, my minimal interval 1 minutes.

1. What the history data have IQFeed from stock ? > IQFeed have consolidated data from all ECN and Exchange.
2. Why I need clear exchange history data from ISLAND and NYSE without other ECN ? > I send my order directly on this exchange
3. Clear exchange data ( and history ) from ISLAND and NYSE other than consolidated data with other ECN ? > Absolutely
4. Who have clear exchange history data from ISLAND and NYSE > IB 2$ in month, Esignal minimum 102$ in month, Reuters Eikon minimum 150$ in month, Bloomberg...
5. Ninjatrader and other popular trader software can may filter ticks, bid/ask only from ISLAND and NYSE without other ECN from IQFeed > not can
6. IQFeed have European and Asian stock exchange > not have
7. But why I not use Esignal > LOL ...
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...
...
... Sorry my English not good for big discuss, IQFeed for example

I repost duckthwaider from Ninja forum
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Hi,

frankly, even though I've been happy with NT so far, NT's handling of IB's historical data feed has me seriously thinking of changing my trading platform, at least for FX. I use Kinetick for data backup and also for historical data, but for my FX trading, I'm really unhappy with their historical data. FX data unfortunately are largely broker dependent, and as Kinetick's FX data are supplied by FXCM, there are huge discrepancies between their data and IB's, leading to unreliable backtests. In case anyone should argue why don't I trade FX through FXCM: that's not an option, for various reasons.
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I understand duckthwaider ? > Absolutley

What about ...move on ?

Ps. I really have bad english for discuss sorry, but this does not mean that we ( I and other people ) should sit and wait NJ9 in 2020 year.


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IB data is cheap, but comes with several limitations

-> no historical tick data: you cannot populate tick, volume, range and Renko charts

-> real-time data is condensed: price changes intra-bar are delayed

-> real-time volume is generally false: volume indicators cannot be used

In my opinion IB data is not suited for professional day trading, but I always connect to a data feed first and then to Interactive Brokers.

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Why I will not argue with you, I understand that you need a tick.

But you must admit that there are have different categories of traders, some traded on ticks, some minutes, some just do on the daily chart.

Those who trade on the daily chart, should be a complete lamer, but it is not among them, too, there are professional traders.

The whole point is what the trader uses the technique of trading and analysis, and someone like that.

Already we now have two traders, with "bad user experience", in classification NinjaTrader Product Management, but we have, and other traders who need the normal data download through the IB.

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Big Mike, my minimal interval 1 minutes.

1. What the history data have IQFeed from stock ? > IQFeed have consolidated data from all ECN and Exchange.
2. Why I need clear exchange history data from ISLAND and NYSE without other ECN ? > I send my order directly on this exchange
3. Clear exchange data ( and history ) from ISLAND and NYSE other than consolidated data with other ECN ? > Absolutely
4. Who have clear exchange history data from ISLAND and NYSE > IB 2$ in month, Esignal minimum 102$ in month, Reuters Eikon minimum 150$ in month, Bloomberg...
5. Ninjatrader and other popular trader software can may filter ticks, bid/ask only from ISLAND and NYSE without other ECN from IQFeed > not can
6. IQFeed have European and Asian stock exchange > not have
7. But why I not use Esignal > LOL ...
...
...
...
... Sorry my English not good for big discuss, IQFeed for example

I repost duckthwaider from Ninja forum
----
Hi,

frankly, even though I've been happy with NT so far, NT's handling of IB's historical data feed has me seriously thinking of changing my trading platform, at least for FX. I use Kinetick for data backup and also for historical data, but for my FX trading, I'm really unhappy with their historical data. FX data unfortunately are largely broker dependent, and as Kinetick's FX data are supplied by FXCM, there are huge discrepancies between their data and IB's, leading to unreliable backtests. In case anyone should argue why don't I trade FX through FXCM: that's not an option, for various reasons.
----

I understand duckthwaider ? > Absolutley

What about ...move on ?

Ps. I really have bad english for discuss sorry, but this does not mean that we ( I and other people ) should sit and wait NJ9 in 2020 year.

So you want to use IB data because you're only only routing orders through island/NYSE, and don't want to use IQ feed because they only offer a consolidated/ complete feed from all exchanges. You also require stock data from EU/Asian markets that IQ feed does not support.

It sounds like your best solution is to use Esignal data, or change platform.

"Free markets work because they allow people to be lucky, thanks to aggressive trial and error, not by giving rewards or incentives for skill. The strategy is, then, to tinker as much as possible and try to collect as many Black Swan opportunities as you can"
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Neo1 the problem is much more complex.

Who uses ESignal, a fairly good understanding of the ratio price/quality this datafeed.

I am now more interested in another, does Ninja managers ( decision maker ) who fully understand what I wrote and Duckthwaider, or their level - Waiting 10+ minutes for data is a bad user experience.

Though of course this may be a veiled wording to cut off IB traders, we'll see.


Last edited by TCust; September 27th, 2015 at 10:31 PM.
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