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Will you upgrade to NT8?

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I have to still use it deeply , had shut it after first use, and i dont know if this been already asked/answered.

I was not getting how to use TickReplay on indicators, i think it is for that purpose. I read some discussion on this that it can be used for intrabar calculations and also can serve for UnGomming Gom Indies. But i wanted to use it for intrabar calculations. Is this possible with this ?

for example i want to catch the signals which momentarily come on developing High/Low but do not satisfy Close of the bar hence they wont appear after bar completion. This i can catch in NT7 during live but on historic run it will not appear.
Solution for this is 1) Employ indicator on High/Low series also , i dont like this one, and 2) Some dirty chartstyle , this too i dont believe can work.

So can NT8's TickReplay simplify my solution ?

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@NinjaTrader

I have to still use it deeply , had shut it after first use, and i dont know if this been already asked/answered.

I was not getting how to use TickReplay on indicators, i think it is for that purpose. I read some discussion on this that it can be used for intrabar calculations and also can serve for UnGomming Gom Indies. But i wanted to use it for intrabar calculations. Is this possible with this ?

for example i want to catch the signals which momentarily come on developing High/Low but do not satisfy Close of the bar hence they wont appear after bar completion. This i can catch in NT7 during live but on historic run it will not appear.
Solution for this is 1) Employ indicator on High/Low series also , i dont like this one, and 2) Some dirty chartstyle , this too i dont believe can work.

So can NT8's TickReplay simplify my solution ?

For this exact purpose (running a backtest and having bar updates fire on every tick that creates the bar) yes however, there is a known bug on our list to resolve.

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Beta forever...?


Something tells me we are going to be looking at the Beta label for a long time. Im wondering if the resources over at NT are more preoccupied with being brokers rather than getting the new platform sorted and taking down the Beta badge..?

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Something tells me we are going to be looking at the Beta label for a long time. Im wondering if the resources over at NT are more preoccupied with being brokers rather than getting the new platform sorted and taking down the Beta badge..?

I would say that @NinjaTrader knows very well that the future of both the platform and the brokerage lies with NT8 being a success.

As to " Beta forever" (), I can understand the feeling.... But eventually it will not be, and after a while the long beta period will fade out of memory. There is enough in the basic changes in the underlying framework to explain why the development has taken so long.

Not that I wouldn't be happier if they were out of beta now....

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Im wondering if the resources over at NT are more preoccupied with being brokers rather than getting the new platform sorted and taking down the Beta badge..?

I'm thinking that NinjaTrader will have less new clients because of their new Brokerage and the excluding, restriction of other brokers to use the platform.

New traders will now think twice which platform they will use and I have the feeling that a few good traders here on futures.io changed the platform.

All this is maybe the reason why NT8 is still in Beta and the indicator converting enthusiasm are low.

Who knows, maybe my thinking or feeling are wrong.

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I would have to disagree. I am not a shill, just a professional tire kicker when it comes to brokers.

NT made a very smart decision by moving up the food chain and becoming more of an oligopoly. Providing value as a trading software vendor is becoming increasingly competitive. Fintech is having a boom and more competitors are being hatched ever year. NT is constantly getting leapfrogged by new entrants. The weight on development is enormous. Even Ninjascript is threatened by Python. ( Please don't flame me or start a python vs C# thread.) They needed to add to their value proposition.

They acquired a very competitive broker Mirus Futures. Having been aggressive with rock bottom rates has practically sparked a price war. Additionally, they have partnered with one of the top forex brokers in the US. Obvious to most futures traders, dabbling in forex can complement your trading. A lot of introducing brokers already provide seamless integration in one platform.

They do need to add value in the back office reporting to get a bigger share of the professional trading groups which I hear is forthcoming. But, NT mobile comes first. The success of NT8 has yet to emerge. Our top programmers on BMT signed a non-disclosure agreement. So, nuff said.

Why they didn't choose to add value via data and routing (ala CQG and TTrader) is beyond me. But nowadays, it seems your a piker if you don't have colo.


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Even Ninjascript is threatened by Python. (

I think of them more as friends than adversaries really. I love python more than any language I have ever tried but it just doesn't make sense to use it for real time analysis on a tick data feed with the other options available.

I will probably build a machine for Ninja 8 once we have a nice stable release and potentially try the brokerage.
Hats off to all the beta testers.

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my experience with NT8

My back ground: 20+ years in IT. I grew up behind the "Iron Curtain" and my first programming experience in college started with Pascal using punch cards than peek and poke on Basic with saving programs on tapes... both programming experience was short lived for me, so not that old but it was not yesterday...

I've started my experiment with NT8 B03 and this afternoon installed B07.
I've traded live account with B05 and B06, well going back and forth between NT7 and NT8.
The main reason switching back and forth is since I am using Jigsaw DOS for entering trades /Depth Of Sales they like to call it/ and according to Jigsaw the only access they have is the NT ATI which will allows only either NT 7 DOS or NT 8 DOS being used not both at the same time...

So far no issues as per trading and only minor recently with charting.
I do have to mention that I am not using many indicators, mainly ATR, gomi stuff and Price Action on NT7.
So far I've found NT 8 very, very stable.
I do have to restart NT 7 every day since there is some memory leak and if NT 7 goes over 1.5 GB memory behaves somewhat "weird"/unstable.
It was not a big issue for me so did not look for resolution since usually I was able to make till end of session.
NT 8 while I am not quite running the same setup /no gomi stuff or Price Action indicator in NT 8 / is running for days with no hick ups.

In NT8 most of my issues I've submitted so far being resolved with the newer releases.
Looking at the NT8 "Issue and bug reports" Forum it seems to me there are no show stoppers for a regular users with NT8 B07.
/I might be wrong so... here comes the disclaimer... /

My gut feeling based on my current experience with NT8 and seeing the logs at the forum /also after the experience of participating in the NT7 going live testing as well/ the next version will be a "live" version...

Hope this helps someone!

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Something tells me we are going to be looking at the Beta label for a long time. Im wondering if the resources over at NT are more preoccupied with being brokers rather than getting the new platform sorted and taking down the Beta badge..?

After a month of back and forth, I still cannot get a MB Trading connection with NT8. Ninjatrader has finally recognized the problem by actually testing on a Windows Vista machine. So I think there are still a plethora of problems yet to be resolved, if something as basic as this has yet to be detected.

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After a month of back and forth, I still cannot get a MB Trading connection with NT8. Ninjatrader has finally recognized the problem by actually testing on a Windows Vista machine. So I think there are still a plethora of problems yet to be resolved, if something as basic as this has yet to be detected.

Agreed. Hate to be on the neg side but its a joke that they have let this out the door with as many issues as it has. Basically they are relying on ordinary users to do their work for them, ie pointing out a plethora of really mundane issues and bugs that should have been addressed long before they ever even considered letting anyone outside the building see it. After all that then there's just an outside chance that they will actually listen. So so frustrating and on and on it goes.....

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