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Will you upgrade to NT8?

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So..... if I download and install the public beta, does that mean bye-bye to the NT7 I have on my computer? I had NT7 open, tried installing the NT8 public beta, and it said to close NT7 first.

If NT7 is going to be replaced I can't do that.


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It will not replace it.

You can also run them both at the same time, after doing the install. You just need to close 7 during the install.

Notice that NT 8 is still a beta version, so it's to test or get used to. You would still want to be using 7 for some while yet.

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You can also run them both at the same time, after doing the install. You just need to close 7 during the install.

Notice that NT 8 is still a beta version, so it's to test or get used to. You would still want to be using 7 for some while yet.

Bob.

Roger that and understood. Thanks for letting me know. You can't run both simultaneously with the same datafeed login though, right?

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Roger that and understood. Thanks for letting me know. You can't run both simultaneously with the same datafeed login though, right?

I use my regular license key from NT7, and username and password are the same.

There may be issues with some -- there was an issue connecting to Rithmic, but that was fixed a week or two ago.

Give it a try, and if there's any issue, report it to NT support using the "email support" tab.

Bob.

Edit: would I put trades through using both? Or, for that matter, using 8 at all? I'm adventuresome, but not crazy....

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Edit: would I put trades through using both? Or, for that matter, using 8 at all? I'm adventuresome, but not crazy....

Kamikaze software testers...

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Will I upgrade do NT8?

Probably yes.

But the question has do be, "When?".
I'm sure not before 6 month from now.

NinjaTrader has still a lot to do, but the big question here are the converting of custom indicators.

That will be the biggest problem for people who want to change. It will take a lot of time and before that isn't done I think nobody will upgrade.

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^Agreed, michaelf. The availability of the custom indicators people like is a big factor for moving over. It is with me for example.

It looks to me like I'll stick with NT7 for a long time to come, unless I see some grand advantage to my trading with NT8 - which won't happen because my trading can be done from pretty much any standard software. Ninjatrader is my favorite though.

So to me right now it comes down to "feel" and I prefer NT7's at the moment. Note that people tend to like what they're used to, so that is a factor affecting my bias a bit too.

I am disappointed with the GUI! Look at NT7's chart trader. Big buttons where it matters - just feels better to me. On the flip side, NT8 has bigger text and buttons where I don't like it... The menus in NT8 feels unnecessarily big and clunky. Hard to explain. That is my impression.

To me the best thing about NT8 is how "light" feeling the chart is. It definitely feels like it takes less effort and memory. Another nice thing is the tab stuff at the bottom but besides that I don't see anything I like more than I currently have in NT7.

Definitely prefer the old menus. Data series comparison:

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Definitely prefer the old menus. Data series comparison:

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So far, that's been my main beef. Things like this are just a little clunkier, for no reason I can see.

Not terrible, just awkward.

Bob.

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Would be cool to have a "NinjaTrader NT7 Classic" skin. Although I don't think that'll really happen because it's a lot of work and undermines the new GUI direction they seem to be wanting to go with.

I don't get it though; I really dislike the web 2.0 "big text and buttons cuz you're a dummy" look. I'm a fan of "organized information in good ratio to the real estate of the window, and in normal text size" etc. Not saying NT8 is terrible. I'm just saying it feels like it's more of a step in the direction of the former with NT8.

And again, I'm speaking in therms of my vague feelings and impressions about it. Maybe other people don't feel this way at all, and NT8 should serve to the best of what most traders want.

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So far, that's been my main beef. Things like this are just a little clunkier, for no reason I can see.

Not terrible, just awkward.

Bob.

Thanks for the feedback.

For what its worth, NinjaTrader 7 UI was put together by a bunch of programmers

NinjaTrader 8 was driven by UI designer. Here at NinjaTrader, we all really like the UI direction. That being said, its all opinion at the end of the day. Never going to please everyone.

If you have not tried it already, change the skin to SlateGray, it provides a more flatter look on the controls.

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Platform for programmers


Its what I got feeling on my first day test.

I would like to be trader than coder.

They might have done big thing but intuitively I feel the same big thing
will be obstacle in migrating. It need fresh new generation of volunteer
enthusiasts coder as we had in era of NT6.5 and 7. Because most of old ones
are either retire or have no interest or become vendor.

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