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I thought I'd have a quick test evaluation this afternoon, downloaded and installed the now public NT8_B5 release onto my laptop. It's not a new machine but it's still a 2.5Ghz 4Gb Vista SP2 machine that runs everything more than well enough (c20-30% slower than my i7 W7 box.)

Install and migration went fine, albeit the non-alphabetic conversion and import of historical data was a bit weird, especially as there is no progress bar for quite a long operation.

Sadly downhill after that, with even just a single chart taking loads more CPU to run than NT7, graphics updates delayed by many seconds and often missing completely, price changes seriously slow in comparison, running separately or together. Finally it just fell over after one window resize too many.

It's still clearly very Beta and I hope I'm missing something (like maybe WPF is a no-no on Vista cf Forms?) but out-of-the-box I was expecting more and a lot less clunkiness. Maybe don't expect much unless you've got machinery that exceeds the minimum recommended by quite a long way.

For now I'll assume it's just Beta issues and await another round or two before trying it on the big box.

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That's very strange. I have a semi-old (ish) laptop that I currently run everything on. It's 1.5 Ghz, 4 Gb and it is having no problem, running both NT 7 and NT 8 together, along with enough other crap to put the memory up to about 80% of max.... no hickups. One difference may be that I did the Windows 10 upgrade, before the NT 8 install. And this machine came with Windows 7, so it's not quite from the Vista era (but it was fairly close to it.)

And WPF should be fine with Vista, I remember using them together, some while ago....

So, very strange. Why not try it on your other machine and see how it goes?

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Hi Sam, it's the original built-in (Dell Vostro 1710) NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GS 256Mb running DirectX 10, (under .Net 4.5.1). So, not a recent card but it does their 3D demo rotations fine and I figured it ought to be plenty for anything 2D. The laptop runs an FDAX replay at 500X without even breaking sweat under NT7 so I remain puzzled and have to assume bugs/unknown system issues. If you think it's worth it I'll contact Ninja, maybe it's an odd-ball.

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NT8 is running fine on one of my laptop with a similar card, and on my VPS's with software emulated graphic cards, so maybe the problem is somewhere else (Nvidia drivers, ...).

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It's running fine for me on Macbook Pro 13 running Windows 10 on Bootcamp.

So far I am liking it, especially the improved DOM (more than 5 price levels, APQ and volume make it actually usable), but my actual choice will be dictated by the output of available aftermarket indicators.

It's nice to see heiken ashi listed as a bar type rather than an indicator, that always irked me for no apparent reason

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For now I'll assume it's just Beta issues and await another round or two before trying it on the big box.

Cheers

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NT8 So Far

My machine is a middle of the road one year old laptop. i5 with Windows 8 upgraded to 10. Geforce 720 card but I think that's turned off. Performance wise NT8 is working just fine for me.

The only glitch causing me concern is its ability to recover from interrupted internet connection. Unfortunately I have to report that recovery from interrupted connections is not good in my experience so far. Data gaps are becoming a regular hazard and often I am having to reload data to get price moving again. Certainly a concern.

Perhaps someone else can shine a light on the topic.

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My machine is a middle of the road one year old laptop. i5 with Windows 8 upgraded to 10. Geforce 720 card but I think that's turned off. Performance wise NT8 is working just fine for me.

The only glitch causing me concern is its ability to recover from interrupted internet connection. Unfortunately I have to report that recovery from interrupted connections is not good in my experience so far. Data gaps are becoming a regular hazard and often I am having to reload data to get price moving again. Certainly a concern.

Perhaps someone else can shine a light on the topic.

I believe that data gaps are a known bug in beta 5. NinjaTrader has a forum for the beta that I believe is now open to everyone. And you can email their platform support, which is generally very responsive.

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NT8 is running fine on one of my laptop with a similar card, and on my VPS's with software emulated graphic cards, so maybe the problem is somewhere else (Nvidia drivers, ...).


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And WPF should be fine with Vista, I remember using them together, some while ago....

So, very strange. Why not try it on your other machine and see how it goes?

Bob.

Looks like the NVIDIA drivers could well be the source of the trouble, I have now found quite a few WPF/NVIDIA related and unfixable display issues on the interwebs so I'll leave the laptop alone to migrate to the doorstop collection over time. Thanks for the ideas.

I also have it installed on the i7/W7 box now and it runs fine on there. Apart from failing to load data for any intervals other than minute based data and a refusal to update Dax cash index values in realtime, FDAX is fine. Latest versions of everything are installed, eSignal traces enabled and submitted to Ninja. Not my lucky week, I'll have another look at Christmas. When I look at the changes involved between NT7 and NT8 and the product and coding complexity we are now getting into I find it all a bit scary, must be an old age thing..

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When I look at the changes involved between NT7 and NT8 and the product and coding complexity we are now getting into I find it all a bit scary, must be an old age thing..

It is. I had exactly the same experience.

As to data, I've loaded tick and volume bars of ES. Haven't tried FDAX.... I'm going slowly into this thing.

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Now that the beta is public, are any of you trying it out?

Mike

Yes. I like it overall. However, they appear to have taken away the ability to change the background color of the chart trader. I changed the background in NT7 to a bright color to ensure I didn't trade in SIM by accident. @NinjaTrader - Why did you leave this out? Or am I missing it?

If you are trading Forex and have a ATM strategy, make sure you set it to pips or it will not work.

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