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Started:September 4th, 2015 (12:51 PM) by Big Mike Views / Replies:7,721 / 94
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Will you upgrade to NT8?

Old December 5th, 2015, 12:16 PM   #91 (permalink)
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I will start by apologizing if I sound unsympathetic to Camdo's problem.

It is already widely know that Windows Vista is the equivalent of of Windows Millenium of the current series of Windows releases. A lot of problems typically surface up when Windows makes major changes with it's UI. In a mission critical computing environement, having a compatible and reliable OS is the easiest part of the setup you can provide yourself.

As for MB, you have to accept that compatibility with that broker is not as high a priority as IBKR or futures FCMs. Even less so with their entry into the brokerage business. I wouldn't even be surprised if there is a reason to INTENTIONALLY not provide compatibility. NT does have it's beef with some brokers (but then I would be spreading gossip).

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Old December 5th, 2015, 04:30 PM   #92 (permalink)
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Btw, released 12/02.

Fixed 8837 MBTrading
Accounts were not always loaded when connected to MBTrading

Not sure if every MBT issue was resolved but that's a positive sign.

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Old December 5th, 2015, 07:59 PM   #93 (permalink)
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somewhat agree yet also strongly disegree

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Agreed. Hate to be on the neg side but its a joke that they have let this out the door with as many issues as it has. Basically they are relying on ordinary users to do their work for them, ie pointing out a plethora of really mundane issues and bugs that should have been addressed long before they ever even considered letting anyone outside the building see it. After all that then there's just an outside chance that they will actually listen. So so frustrating and on and on it goes.....

Agree that the users have to find lots of bugs on their own and that is causing frustration yet strongly disagree with the complaining part since one very important thing seems to be forgotten...

the business model which is one of a kind... ex.: when you buy a car, do you expect that this car will run till end of life and without paying any extra you also will receive an electrical engine when the technology and government regulations are changing or later even a hydrogen engine with further technology improvements... I don't think so yet basically that's what for now NT /and not just NT/ is committed to.

I firmly believe the way too long development cycle - if I remember correctly NT 8 was going to be released ~2 years ago - and buggy beta releases are caused by the business model what seems to be quite common in this industry.
Meaning a vendor sell a product once and than they have to provide free upgrades for life... It is like a reverse "ponzi scam" for a vendor in order to survive and pay bills and salaries they have to keep come up with new buyers or pray that leasing customers won't pay finally the full price for their product... actually this is exactly what I did.

I know I know NT since I am involved has created additional income with data feed and now the brokerage.

Here is how it works for businesses in my experience.
In my corporate IT life worked for Amoco, BP, Mobil and Xerox as well usually we have purchased enterprise software for hundreds of thousands of $$$ or sometimes even in the 7 digit range for some systems. After the initial purchase price we were paying yearly ~17% maintenance fee /17% of the purchase price/ for which we were provided support, regular updates etc...
I am not saying NT has to "fix" their model it worked ok for me so far however when someone complains they shall think about the whole picture first... benefits vs cost.

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Old December 17th, 2015, 02:18 AM   #94 (permalink)
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Is there a way on how to transfer NT indicators and strategies to NT8?

Hi All,
I hope this forum the right one to add my question regarding NT8 platform.
Recently, I downloaded NT8 in order to get familiar with it's new look and learn to maneuver around it. Unfortunately, did not get even one Indicator transferred from my NT 7 to NT8. My question is: Is there a way on how to transfer all my Indi's and Strategies from NT7 to NT8?


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Old December 17th, 2015, 02:24 AM   #95 (permalink)
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Virtually all indicators need to be converted/rewritten to be used in NT8. You are at the right place but as yet there is not a great deal of interest as NT7 is the only SAFE way to go for live trading at this stage.

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