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Help Understanding NT Account Performance tab

I had the NT Account Performance Tab produce a wrong (?) result.

Can somebody explain what I'm seeing here?

Here is the sequence of events and a data table below that.

I had, on Monday, bought 1 long @ 2100.5 which I sold at 2102.25. Gain is 1*50*(2102.25-2100.5)=87.5
This was correct yesterday.

Then I bought 1 long @ 2104.5 and the price went south. Avg Price on 1 is 2104.5
at a later time, I bought 2 long @ 2097.0 and my new Avg Price is (2104.5+2097+2097)/3=2099.5.
at a later time again I sold 2 @ 2100.00 and that's when my Realized PnL went to 12.5.

Huh? I just made $50 on that sale and 87.5 on the prior. What Gives? I still have 1 long position if that makes any difference. Has overnight got a factor in this?

Not only that, but my Account Summary sure seems goofed up as well.
Total Net Profit shows $12.50. Gross Profit is $237.50 (I wish) and Gross Loss was $-225.00 (??!!). None of these numbers are correct.

Where did these numbers come from? Just before the start of trades, I had reset my sim account totally. The trades I'd made before the reset were also positive.

I expected the Realized PnL to show 87.50+50 for 137.50. On summary I expected to see Gross Profit = Net Profit = $137.50 and 0 Gross Loss.

Here is the Order (the only orders in the entire thing as the sim had be reset and history cleared).

 
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Instrument	Action	Qty	Order Type	Limit	Stop	State	Filled	Avg Price
ES 06-15		Sell	2	Limit		2100.00	0	Filled	2	2100
ES 06-15		Buy	2	Limit		2097.00	0	Filled	2	2097
ES 06-15		Buy	1	Limit		2104.50	0	Filled	1	2104.5
ES 06-15		Sell	1	Limit		2102.25	0	Filled	1	2102.25
ES 06-15		Buy	1	Limit		2100.50	0	Filled	1	2100.5

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it is easier to calculate if you number them in their seq, Ninja calculation bases on FIFO order;

in the table
1(IN) 2(OUT) = +87.5
3(IN) 5a(OUT) = -225
4a(IN) 5b(OUT) = +150
note: you still have 4b running.
also adding $5 per a completed transaction = 3x5 = -15 you made -2.5

 
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Instrument		Action	Qty	Order Type	Limit	Stop	State	Filled	Avg Price               running balance
5b-ES 06-15		Sell	1	Limit		2100.00	0	Filled	1	2100   +3p = +150            +12.5
5a-ES 06-15		Sell	1	Limit		2100.00	0	Filled	1	2100   -4.50p = -225.00      -137.5
5-(ES 06-15		Sell	2	Limit		2100.00	0	Filled	2	2100) -split in 2 orders
4b-ES 06-15		Buy	1	Limit		2097.00	0	Filled	1	2097
4a-ES 06-15		Buy	1	Limit		2097.00	0	Filled	1	2097
4-(ES 06-15		Buy	2	Limit		2097.00	0	Filled	2	2097 ) -split in 2 orders     
3-ES 06-15		Buy	1	Limit		2104.50	0	Filled	1	2104.5

2-ES 06-15		Sell	1	Limit		2102.25	0	Filled	1	2102.25   +87.5               +87.5
1-ES 06-15		Buy	1	Limit		2100.50	0	Filled	1	2100.5


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it is easier to calculate if you number them in their seq, Ninja calculation bases on FIFO order;

note: you still have 4b running.

@cory, Thank you. I for sure didn't use FIFO for doing the calc and that does explain it. I was using the Avg Price calculation as above. Yes, I have a long runner still active.

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