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Ninjatrader a Quandry!

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Ninjatrader a Quandry!

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Been coding in Ninja for years, great peer support and direct support, couldn't be happier.

A very trust worthy source has shared with me that with the acquisition of Mirus, Ninja is now terminating other third party FCM's and thus IB's from offering Ninja as a platform. This has not hit the air waves yet, but is coming. Today, no new ninja accounts at some FCM's was rolled out. I am told existing ninja customers at these FCM's will eventually be turned off of NINJA. It seems in the not to distant future if you want to use Ninja you will have to move to Ninja Brokerage or one other very large broker, which I won't mention, else you will be force to move to another trading platform.

First my post is not to encite a fight on this, the cards will lay where they may. My concern is as a developer for ninja, does it make sense to develop further for ninja if the available market of users will go from everyone under to sun, to everyone who wants to move their accounts to Ninja brokerage or one other--and with that move to dorman.

So what options remain as an open, available to multiple FCM's and IB's, development platform? For developing automated strategies?

Multicharts seems to be another open platform that works with multiple feeds, FCM's, etc.
OEC is another i hear about
CQG has a rather expensive platform but hear good stuff, can't really see if they compare in strategies though

I rather like ninja and the ecosystem it has for support and especially peer related support like BM, but it seems Ninja may be shooting themselves in the foot by turning off FCM's and thus cutting off potential users if they dont want to move to a specific FCM.


Does anyone have any experience with those platforms above and could give me an idea of the ecosystem around them with respect to coding or even the capabilities compared to ninja? Multi Charts seems rather comparable.

Let me add that I code in C# and not Easy Language, seems other platforms really try to embrace that, but I find it limiting. Welcome thoughts..

Thoughts?


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A very trust worthy source has shared with me that with the acquisition of Mirus, Ninja is now terminating other third party FCM's and thus IB's from offering Ninja as a platform. This has not hit the air waves yet, but is coming. Today, no new ninja accounts at some FCM's was rolled out. I am told existing ninja customers at these FCM's will eventually be turned off of NINJA. It seems in the not to distant future if you want to use Ninja you will have to move to Ninja Brokerage or one other very large broker, which I won't mention, else you will be force to move to another trading platform.

With all due respect, this information is incorrect and mischaracterized. This has been discussed and answered many times over in several threads on this forum and in great detail.

You can read more here - https://futures.io/brokers-data-feeds/32165-ninjatrader-introduces-brokerage-services-acquisition-mirus-futures.html

 
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again, as I stated, my intention was not to get into a fight over this, but rather get people opinions on other platforms. But since you brought it up and I reviewed that thread seems other people have the same concern I do.

To be fair,
I found a post where you around July 1 state existing brokerages customer will be able to keep running ninjatrader.
Please clarify, as it appears this only applies if you had bought ninja. Many trader have used the direct or other options that are covered by their IB. It appears these options are going away as of today.

So if someone has been trading using the direct or other broker supplied version of ninja(where they paid each month), they have to switch brokers to continue using ninja as those partnerships are being dissolved?

So for the record, will Ninjatrader, moving forward, still be available for customers who don't own a license but were using a broker supplied license or direct version?

if not, would you allow those individuals to now purchase a lifetime ninja, and be grandfather as they had purchased it earlier?

I would suggest some clarification document on all this as I am being told I will need to move off ninja, hence my original post. Again not trying to start a fight, just confused on what next steps are.

and while I am asking what will be your relationship with RCG moving forward?

 
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To be fair,
I found a post where you around July 1 state existing brokerages customer will be able to keep running ninjatrader.
Please clarify, as it appears this only applies if you had bought ninja. Many trader have used the direct or other options that are covered by their IB. It appears these options are going away as of today.

So if someone has been trading using the direct or other broker supplied version of ninja(where they paid each month), they have to switch brokers to continue using ninja as those partnerships are being dissolved?

So for the record, will Ninjatrader, moving forward, still be available for customers who don't own a license but were using a broker supplied license or direct version?

if not, would you allow those individuals to now purchase a lifetime ninja, and be grandfather as they had purchased it earlier?

I would suggest some clarification document on all this as I am being told I will need to move off ninja, hence my original post. Again not trying to start a fight, just confused on what next steps are.

and while I am asking what will be your relationship with RCG moving forward?

- Any client who has an active NinjaTrader license of any type prior to July 15th will have and always have access to those brokerage technologies we supported at that time --> Nothing has nor will be taken away from them so yes, they are grandfathered in
- No IB or FCM is being disabled today nor are any of our clients being forced to move today --> Please email to my attention at platformsupport@ninjatrader.com as I wish to learn more about who is disseminating this misinformation to you
- Clients prior to July 15th can broker through RCG, new clients can look here NinjaTrader Ecosystem | Broker Partners

 
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- Any client who has an active NinjaTrader license of any type prior to July 15th will have and always have access to those brokerage technologies we supported at that time --> Nothing has nor will be taken away from them so yes, they are grandfathered in
- No IB or FCM is being disabled today nor are any of our clients being forced to move today --> Please email to my attention at platformsupport@ninjatrader.com as I wish to learn more about who is disseminating this misinformation to you
- Clients prior to July 15th can broker through RCG, new clients can look here NinjaTrader Ecosystem | Broker Partners

Will services for new AMP Global ninja clients still be discontinued on March 15, 2015?

 
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Will services for new AMP Global ninja clients still be discontinued on March 15, 2015?

No.

 
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No.

You clearly state that here: https://futures.io/brokers-data-feeds/32165-ninjatrader-introduces-brokerage-ser...utures-6.html#post420511

New as in signing up after March 2015. I understand that current NT users will be supported beyond that if they use AMP currently.

 
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Use the existing thread

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You clearly state that here: https://futures.io/brokers-data-feeds/32165-ninjatrader-introduces-brokerage-ser...utures-6.html#post420511

New as in signing up after March 2015. I understand that current NT users will be supported beyond that if they use AMP currently.

To clarify my answer:

Existing NinjaTrader clients prior to March 15th will continue to be able to trade through AMP. New NinjaTrader clients after March 2015 will no longer have AMP as an option.

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