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Indicators similar to this?

Hi Folks,


I have purchased the indicator below for TS but I want to move to NinjaTrader. TS can never be my broker because of where I live, so if I ever go live, I'll be using Ninja for order entry at least.

http://www.customizedtrading.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/product_full/Fractal_Exit.PNG

I like the slightly lagged S/R this indicator provides for me. It's part of my approach to paper trading and I don't see that changing right now. As a novice, I just don't know how many comparable indicators are out there. I've been actively looking for equivalent TS indicators in hopes NinjaTrader would have a match.

The developer didn't want to discuss porting it to NT either. He's primarily a trader and does the TS indi coding for his own use, and a side business evolved out of it. Thanks for reading and thanks for any matching indicators suggestions. I've found things that are close but nothing that a carbon copy.


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Hi Folks,


I have purchased the indicator below for TS but I want to move to NinjaTrader. TS can never be my broker because of where I live, so if I ever go live, I'll be using Ninja for order entry at least.

http://www.customizedtrading.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/product_full/Fractal_Exit.PNG

I like the slightly lagged S/R this indicator provides for me. It's part of my approach to paper trading and I don't see that changing right now. As a novice, I just don't know how many comparable indicators are out there. I've been actively looking for equivalent TS indicators in hopes NinjaTrader would have a match.

The developer didn't want to discuss porting it to NT either. He's primarily a trader and does the TS indi coding for his own use, and a side business evolved out of it. Thanks for reading and thanks for any matching indicators suggestions. I've found things that are close but nothing that a carbon copy.


Regards,


Josh.


Josh, the indicator is a channel indicator based on swing highs and swing lows. I have not seen this indicator anywhere, but it is not difficult to port it to NinjaTrader.

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Josh, the indicator is a channel indicator based on swing highs and swing lows. I have not seen this indicator anywhere, but it is not difficult to port it to NinjaTrader.

Maybe a couple instances of the Donchain indicator with various settings would do the tricks.

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Maybe a couple instances of the Donchain indicator with various settings would do the tricks.

@trendisyourfriend: No, it has little to do with a Donchian Channel indicator.

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Josh, the indicator is a channel indicator based on swing highs and swing lows. I have not seen this indicator anywhere, but it is not difficult to port it to NinjaTrader.

Hi Fat Tails,


Thanks for the feedback. In terms of legality, if you purchase a TS indicator is it ok to take the code and try to recreate in Ninja. Or, do you mean coding something equivalent in Ninja?


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This looks close to me:

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Hi Fat Tails,


Thanks for the feedback. In terms of legality, if you purchase a TS indicator is it ok to take the code and try to recreate in Ninja. Or, do you mean coding something equivalent in Ninja?


Regards,

Josh.

I think that the indicator can probably be recreated just from looking at the chart.

No TradeStation formula needed.

Also it is too simple to be protected by a copyright.

Or would you try to file a patent for your observation that a swing high, which his higher than the highs of the two preceding and the two following bars, can be observed two bars later?

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I think that the indicator can probably be recreated just from looking at the chart.

No TradeStation formula needed.

Also it is too simple to be protected by a copyright.

Or would you try to file a patent for your observation that a swing high, which his higher than the highs of the two preceding and the two following bars, can be observed two bars later?

I think the indicator author doesn't mean Bill William fractal he means multiple tf fractals

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In order to understand MTF price action you need to use smoothed price lines with almost no lag on each of the following time periods: 5, 15, 20, 30, 60, 120, 240, and daily. The interaction of these 8 different price action lines found in the MTF price action indicator is the key to identifying on your trading chart where and when a trade is changing directions.

TradeStation MTF Price Action Indicator - Reveals Support and Resistance | CustomizedTrading.com

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Trdestation MTF indicator

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TradeStation MTF Price Action Indicator - Reveals Support and Resistance | CustomizedTrading.com


For now you could duplicate that with a bunch of the @Fat Tails contributed Visual EMA's in the time frames specified, all in the same panel, and all set to a period of 1. It does seems like a good idea. A bit tedious to set up all those indicators in the chart, though. And performance will suffer because each Visual EMA comes with its own small interval secondary dataseries that generates A LOT of BarsInProgress events.

That should just be a temporary expedient. There are better ways to do it. And the stairstep plots can be smoothed out.

Bye for now, I have more important things to work on. Such as how dog avatars might help my trading.

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I think that the indicator can probably be recreated just from looking at the chart.

No TradeStation formula needed.

Also it is too simple to be protected by a copyright.

Or would you try to file a patent for your observation that a swing high, which his higher than the highs of the two preceding and the two following bars, can be observed two bars later?


I would never do such a thing, but having been on the receiving end of the farce of US Patent laws _nothing_ would surprise me any longer.

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