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NinjaTrader with TT_net feed/order_routing

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 user33 
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Is the life time license out of the question w/ Ninja.... ?

no, but it still costs $995, for small retail traders, that is a considerable amount of expenses, for consistently profitable traders that should be a non-issue.

Remember, the trading platform cost is not the only cost small retail traders must be concerned, there are many others, they all add up! so if we can cut expenses in every one of them: platform cost, commissions, data feed, software, indicators, educational materials, etc. etc., it is a Big Deal!

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and Continuum? (CQG=Continuum)

No, only CQG.



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As you say Whith Ninja v20 ,server side OCO is supported .....in other words, if i put an OCO order in Ninja and lose internet ....the OCO order is at my brokers server?
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That is correct.

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no, but it still costs $995, for small retail traders, that is a considerable amount of expenses, for consistently profitable traders that should be a non-issue.


I understand , but it's close enough to $600 to not even think about.

If you're a mechanic, you buy the tools and forget about it.... They are in your tool box forever.

I'm just saying... some companies don't even offer life time deals... it's pay and pay...

You save money by buying the tools for your profession up front.


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I understand , but it's close enough to $600 to not even think about.

If I have an alternative that is comparable to Ninja and it costs me nothing (which I do with Sierra Charts), I would rather keep the $950 (or $600 for that matter) in my pocket and use the free alternative, would that make sense to you?

not to mention that the free Sierra option has all the features that are only available in the paid full version of ninja, and MUCH MUCH more customizeable, uses less computing resources, has faster display (10 ms vs 200 ms), what would be my incentive to stay with NT even though I had been a NT user for over 10 years?

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If I have an alternative that is comparable to Ninja and it costs me nothing (which I do with Sierra Charts), I would rather keep the $950 (or $600 for that matter) in my pocket and use the free alternative, would that make sense to you?

not to mention that the free Sierra option has all the features that are only available in the paid full version of ninja.

Absolutely ... ... free tools always win


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 steve2222 
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I had been with Mirus on Zen-fire with NT limited functionality version since 2008, and had been a happy customer, virtually trouble-free and I don't have to pay for a platform fee.

I moved my account to AMP because of the Zen-fire blow up, not because I was unhappy with Mirus, but because I am a trader and I need to trade to make a living. with AMP I have 3 execution platforms to choose from: CQG, Rythmic, and TT_Net.

TT_net has the lowest commission rate, so I opt for TT_net. I have 3 options with TT_net: X-trader_Pro, or Ninjatrader, or Sierra Charts. X-Trader is out of my league, Ninjatrader and Sierra trader are about equal in both functionalists and commissions, with NT slightly higher due to the surcharge of $0.20 per trade fees to TT, but the real difference lies on the platform cost: Sierra Charts offers a limited functionality version that is free, while NT doesn't, this puts NT at disadvantage, given the fact that both competing platforms offer competitive features and functionaries.

Why would you not get NT to transfer your 'limited functionality' NT licence key to AMP with a CQG or Rithmic feed?

Are the TT commissions THAT much cheaper with AMP than CQG or Rithmic with AMP?

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Why would you not get NT to transfer your 'limited functionality' NT licence key to AMP with a CQG or Rithmic feed?

because of the answer to your 2nd question below:


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Are the TT commissions THAT much cheaper with AMP than CQG or Rithmic with AMP?


YES!

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I must add that the DOM in Sierra Charts limited functionality version has all the features that are only available in the full version of NT, namely the ATM features: OCO, barckets, etc. and with TT_net, thes features reside on the TT_net server, as opposed to on the client's personal computer, which is a huge advantage.

@user33
What made you think OCO's with Sierra/AMP/TT were server side - see attached?

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@user33
What made you think OCO's with Sierra/AMP/TT were server side - see attached?

They had just implemented server-side OCO on TT_net, it is now available to AMP clients as "pre-lease", you should see it on public website soon. This is from an email to AMP existing clients:


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 steve2222 
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They had just implemented server-side OCO on TT_net, it is now available to AMP clients as "pre-lease", you should see it on public website soon. This is from an email to AMP existing clients:


Thanks.

Yeah I got that email as well.

But have AMP seperately confirmed it to you?

Because the email you refer to was dated 8 October from AMP, whereas the Sierra/AMP web page I attached says it was updated 29 November, so in theory that Sierra page should be the more up to date position.

I would be interested in you confirming when you place your first OCO live trade.

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