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The Cost of Ninjatrader

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some broker offer SC basic level free.

… so that's even better
thanks for mentioning that.

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Which trading platform Hyundai you are driving that is priced less than a $1000 Mercedes?

For your information, Jigsaw is a good DOM without the ATM, charting, and programming capabilities of NinjaTrader. But that is all and you will have to pay $50 a month to use it live after you have paid $399. There is a wealth of information under Vendors section in this forum that you can benefit from.

From what I've gotten from using both TOS and Ninjatrader, Thinkorswim is like a free Lexus compared to Ninjatrader's expensive Mercedes with outdated visual styling and less intuitive interface.

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From what I've gotten from using both TOS and Ninjatrader, Thinkorswim is like a free Lexus compared to Ninjatrader's expensive Mercedes with outdated visual styling and less intuitive interface.

So, bottom line...if you're that satisfied with TOS, why even bother with NT at all ?

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I'm getting ready to switch from stocks to futures day trading. The chance to ask rich folks why they drive a Mercedes is priceless.

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I was first drawn to NT in early 2009 because I could code my strategies in C# (I'm a professional .NET developer). I tried the free Ninjatrader for a while, SIM traded and continued expressing my ideas about the market with custom strategies and indicators. I eventually wanted to go live but didn't want to commit to the lifetime license yet so I leased it for 3 months. After that I decided to buy a lifetime license in September 2009. That was 4 years ago and I haven't paid anymore money to Ninjatrader, except for some periods where I played around with the real-time Kinetick service (correlating ES to TRIN and TICK, backtest strategies with intraday stock ETF price data, etc).

I also use thinkorswim for my IRA where I trade stocks, ETFs and options. I've been a ToS user since 2007. There's a lot of things I can do in Ninja that I can't do in ToS, and vice versa. They are both part of my tool belt. Also, futures commissions on ToS are over 50% higher than Mirus, unless you can get TD Ameritrade to give you lower "active trader" rates, but even those rates are still higher, so there's that. Also, 100% of my futures trading is automated (on Ninja). I couldn't do that on ToS, or if I could I don't know how.

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@KosherTrader, most of your threads are about everything being too expensive in the world of trading:

The first was about futures.io (formerly BMT) elite membership
Then Jigsaw
Then Ninjatrader

It's reasonable to want to shop around for the best deal with any purchase, but if these sorts of startup costs are really that much of an issue then you are not in a place financially to begin trading. It is what it is, take it or leave it.

you said it more politically correct than I could have.....I'm wondering if kosher trader is actually jewish or someone playing the forum using a stereotype name to pick on them......I'm 100% Dutch and we "hollanders" are cheap too, but not to the point we would start multiple threads on saving money....

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From what I've gotten from using both TOS and Ninjatrader, Thinkorswim is like a free Lexus compared to Ninjatrader's expensive Mercedes with outdated visual styling and less intuitive interface.

Man you are unbelievable, TOS under load adds the SER to say nothing of the frequency of its unreliable updates. Beginning to think you just like the posting sport. I do not want to be harsh (I can do that to myself easily enough) but if you really are serious about trading you need to take a big step back in perception and a big step up in attitude to save yourself a fortune.

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TOS is excellent for trading stocks with its intuitive design and handling. It would be superb for trading futures in the basic Al Brooks style as well if TD Ameritrade had reasonable commissions.

Ninjatrader is cool certainly but its price is extremely high, no question. I have contacted Raymond Deux via support@ninjatrader.com to see if he or his reps can come on here to discuss the pricing issues, which were brought up by many folks in Bigmike's thread on Ninjatrader he linked to.

I had an idea last night, with all of the coders who frequent this site the community could design an open-source, free, donation-supported trading platform to surpass any of the current platforms. I believe that is possible with the talent we have here.

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I had an idea last night, with all of the coders who frequent this site the community could design an open-source, free, donation-supported trading platform to surpass any of the current platforms. I believe that is possible with the talent we have here.

Unbelievable.... and the reward for doing this would be...Karma?

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