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UniRenko, Universal Renko Bar Type

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@monpere, Thank you again for sharing this bar type. I made a couple changes to it that fits my needs and like it very much. I find myself custom bar type development challenged. So, your work made it much easier for me to make those changes. As a result, I built another automated strategy that starts forward testing today and this one looks better in back testing than the one I am trading live. Thanks again.

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hi
unirenko very similar with momentumbartype from eman

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@monpere thanks for the Uni its a great bar type for me..... I tried back testing and the bars are very very small and they dont plot correctly(I deleted all other indi;s off in checking for problem),before I start market replay the bars plot correctly but as soon as I start, speed doesnt matter issue occurs, is this bar type able to be back tested? as soon as I switch back to live trading bars are normal again, I ve tried testing default 2/2/4 setting and others nothing helps@MWinfrey I saw where you said that you back tested, suggestions

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@monpere thanks for the Uni its a great bar type for me..... I tried back testing and the bars are very very small and they dont plot correctly(I deleted all other indi;s off in checking for problem),before I start market replay the bars plot correctly but as soon as I start, speed doesnt matter issue occurs, is this bar type able to be back tested? as soon as I switch back to live trading bars are normal again, I ve tried testing default 2/2/4 setting and others nothing helps@MWinfrey I saw where you said that you back tested, suggestions

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yes I backtested but only with strategy analyzer. i don't use market replay.

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Here's a pretty cool thing you can do with the unirenko, linebreak charts based on renko. How cool is that? I wanted that ability when I was test driving BetterLineBreak.

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Here's a pretty cool thing you can do with the unirenko, linebreak charts based on renko. How cool is that? I wanted that ability when I was test driving BetterLineBreak.

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Cool difference indeed. Thx.

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Cool difference indeed. Thx.

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Here's a pretty cool thing you can do with the unirenko, linebreak charts based on renko. How cool is that? I wanted that ability when I was test driving BetterLineBreak.

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@MWinfrey,

Could you please suggest/classify settings for SCALPing, SWINGing, LONG-TERM or LARGE FRAME (equivalence of, say, Daily/Weekly chart setup) ?

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@MWinfrey,

Could you please suggest/classify settings for SCALPing, SWINGing, LONG-TERM or LARGE FRAME (equivalence of, say, Daily/Weekly chart setup) ?

Lolu

I think it's interesting that you would ask me that question especially considering all the experience you have. Regardless, the answer to your question is it depends on the market. Because the size of renko bricks are based on the vertical movement of price or range, different markets will present completely different when using the same settings across markets. If your issue is understanding how a renko brick is built, read this Renko Chart Definition | Investopedia. What that definition does not explain clearly is that the maximum range of a brick is (n * 3) -1, where n is the size of the body. So, if you are using a 4 tick renko brick, the maximum size that it can be is (4 * 3) - 1 = 11. Now in the case of the UniRenko it's a bit different. @monpere built them to comply with 4 * 3 = 12, which means the UniRenko requires 12 ticks in order to start a new bar.

So, now that I've assumed a few things as to why you're asking the question, I may be way off. But, I really can't give you a direct answer because of what I said. What I suggest is that you experiment with the settings for the markets you trade and come up with the ones that suit your desire. One thing to remember is that a renko brick is truncated at the session boundary. So, if you are trying to come up with some sort of daily brick or larger, you will have a bit of a problem doing this. In my opinion, renko bricks aren't suited to daily and larger unless you have an implementation of the renko that does not honor the session boundary.

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I think it's interesting that you would ask me that question especially considering all the experience you have. Regardless, the answer to your question is it depends on the market. Because the size of renko bricks are based on the vertical movement of price or range, different markets will present completely different when using the same settings across markets. If your issue is understanding how a renko brick is built, read this Renko Chart Definition | Investopedia. What that definition does not explain clearly is that the maximum range of a brick is (n * 3) -1, where n is the size of the body. So, if you are using a 4 tick renko brick, the maximum size that it can be is (4 * 3) - 1 = 11. Now in the case of the UniRenko it's a bit different. @monpere built them to comply with 4 * 3 = 12, which means the UniRenko requires 12 ticks in order to start a new bar.

So, now that I've assumed a few things as to why you're asking the question, I may be way off. But, I really can't give you a direct answer because of what I said. What I suggest is that you experiment with the settings for the markets you trade and come up with the ones that suit your desire. One thing to remember is that a renko brick is truncated at the session boundary. So, if you are trying to come up with some sort of daily brick or larger, you will have a bit of a problem doing this. In my opinion, renko bricks aren't suited to daily and larger unless you have an implementation of the renko that does not honor the session boundary.

@MWinfrey,

There are always new things to learn ... such as the "linebreak charts based on renko" idea in your post #25 and @plethora's screenshot in post #26 ... it just turns the UniRenko to something different. Thanks for the notes on Renko size derivation.

I'll surely experiment with some settings on the Euro (6E) instrument and see how they come up and behave.

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