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Manual entry, automated exit (Ninja Trader or other)?

I want to do manual entry, and then have Ninja Trader exit the trade according to my specs. Is this possible? Thank you!

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ATM (Advanced Trade Management) strategies do this and more.

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ATMs do this and more.

So far, the ATM I have looked at in Ninja, does not allow exit via price crossing moving average. I would consider an automated entry if I could figure out if MA is moving higher or lower. Is this possible without learning C#?

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So far, the ATM I have looked at in Ninja, does not allow exit via price crossing moving average. I would consider an automated entry if I could figure out if MA is moving higher or lower. Is this possible without learning C#?

Thank you for responding!!!

Aha! The next simplest solution is the Strategy Wizard, that will build a simple strategy for you if you fill in a number of fields.

The manual part becomes starting the strategy...several approaches to that.

ETA: All may involve learning something about how to program NT unfortunately, but check out the "Do you want your [heart's desire] created for free" thread (elite access: https://futures.io/elite-circle/1261-want-your-ninjatrader-indicator-created-free.html).

There are posts on futures.io (formerly BMT) describing how to add buttons to the chart (e.g., https://futures.io/elite-circle/8995-custom-toolbar-button-ninjatrader-7-a.html, which requires Elite access as well), but see e.g. Custom Buy, Sell and Anything Buttons In NinjaTrader laurelhurst management


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..... Is this possible without learning C#?

Thank you for responding!!!

@peaceland

Yes... but it involves paying a programmer...

Other than that ....

What you could do.... not that I recommend this ...

You could create 2 very simple strategies in the Strategy wizard , a buy strategy that issues a buy order when your criteria is met and a sell strategy that issues a sell order when your criteria is met....

You enter a long order manually ... then start the "sell" strategy ... when your exit criteria is met... the strategy will issue a sell order taking you flat ... same for the other way around....

I am sure there will be some "gothcha's " ....

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@peaceland

Yes... but it involves paying a programmer...

Other than that ....

What you could do.... not that I recommend this ...

You could create 2 very simple strategies in the Strategy wizard , a buy strategy that issues a buy order when your criteria is met and a sell strategy that issues a sell order when your criteria is met....

You enter a long order manually ... then start the "sell" strategy ... when your exit criteria is met... the strategy will issue a sell order taking you flat ... same for the other way around....

I am sure there will be some "gothcha's " ....


@ThatManFromTexas: If you would not recommend it, why do you recommend it? Doing it this way is calling for trouble.

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I wrote a strategy shell for that and posted it here https://futures.io/elite-circle/21980-manual-entry-strategy-shell.html

Manual entry buttons are there, a manual exit button is there, so you just have to code exit signals for the corresponding entry signal. I HAVE NOT TESTED IT LIVE, so I suggest you run it on sim before firing it live.

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I wrote a strategy shell for that and posted it here https://futures.io/elite-circle/21980-manual-entry-strategy-shell.html

Manual entry buttons are there, a manual exit button is there, so you just have to code exit signals for the corresponding entry signal. I HAVE NOT TESTED IT LIVE, so I suggest you run it on sim before firing it live.

You can also do something similar with the ChartTrader panel enabled, and use the usual button, but add a "smarter" ATM logic.
I did that for a guy, but I can't unfortunately share the source (NDA with the customer...).

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You can also do something similar with the ChartTrader panel enabled, and use the usual button, but add a "smarter" ATM logic.
I did that for a guy, but I can't unfortunately share the source (NDA with the customer...).

Did you happen to use ChartControl?

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You can also do something similar with the ChartTrader panel enabled, and use the usual button, but add a "smarter" ATM logic.
I did that for a guy, but I can't unfortunately share the source (NDA with the customer...).


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Did you happen to use ChartControl?

I do this as well. I can open a position normally with Chart Trader, and exit with a strategy by pressing a button, or change the custom trade management while the trade is active by pressing another button, i.e. switch from a conservative trail management to an aggressive trail management, to a ratcheting trail management, and back again, etc. After you open a position normally with Chart Trader, you can get the open position data using:

NinjaTrader.Cbi.Globals.Accounts[i].Positions[k].MarketPosition
NinjaTrader.Cbi.Globals.Accounts[i].Positions[k].Quantity
NinjaTrader.Cbi.Globals.Accounts[i].Positions[k].AvgPrice

and other pertinent info about the position like Account, Instrument, etc..

Now that you have the open position data, you can write your exit code as you wish using that info, if needed.

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