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Webinar: A discussion with Raymond Deux, CEO of NinjaTrader - and the debut of NT8!

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I thought he said you could do it on a per instrument basis? Like ES data coming from IQFeed, and EURUSD data coming from InteractiveBrokers, for example? Just not a per-chart basis, meaning that one ES chart is IQFeed and the other ES chart is Zen Fire.

I will have to watch it again.

Mike

Although a great fan of ninjatrader and commend their improved development I'd prefer efforts were focused on functionality improvements than "prettiness" improvements. Instrument feed selection is one issue but execution by instrument is equally/more important in my opinion. Ideally, Ninja's multibroker license flagship product should be more flexible in being able to direct orders from different instruments to different brokers in a strategy. Details contained here. I'm not sure if this was contained anywhere.


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I can't wait for NinjaTrader 8! There will be some NinjaScript changes but I am sure it will be worth it.

I don't know if anyone has stated it yet, but those that are interested, Ray stated there will be no upgrade charge to NT8 if you are already a lifetime license owner.

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Although a great fan of ninjatrader and commend their improved development I'd prefer efforts were focused on functionality improvements than "prettiness" improvements. Instrument feed selection is one issue but execution by instrument is equally/more important in my opinion. Ideally, Ninja's multibroker license flagship product should be more flexible in being able to direct orders from different instruments to different brokers in a strategy. Details contained here. I'm not sure if this was contained anywhere.


I know what you mean, but I think both are important. As an example, I found MultiCharts very aesthetically pleasing and that helped draw me in to it a couple years back, before I later gave up on it. Sierra Chart is the exact opposite, it is frankly quite repulsive to look at out of the box with its default settings, and that gave me a sour first and second impression because it made the program feel antiquated when really it is not.

So I applaud the decision to allow skinning of the interface. What makes NT great is the flexibility and extensibility of it, and what the user community has created. Just look at the complexity of the tools being created for NT today vs 3-4 years ago (pre-nexusfi.com (formerly BMT) ). I think that our charts are deeply personal things and I welcome the ability to allow for deep customization of them.

Obviously I would place higher importance on the core engine, and based on what I heard, Ray and the NT team are focused on the engine and performance in this release.

I'm sure we were all glad to hear confirmation of WPF and NET 4.5. Sure it will break some things, but just like the best indicators that existed for NT 6.5 were re-written for NT7, the same will occur for NT8. And I think this is the desired approach, it forces programmers to look at the code and improve it to make use of the new functions and abilities.

Some of us will install NT8 on day 1 and uninstall NT7 the same day and be on the bleeding edge, converting indicators on-the-fly as you want to add them to the chart. Others will run NT7 for a long time until all of their favorite stuff has been converted to NT8.

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I can't wait for NinjaTrader 8! There will be some NinjaScript changes but I am sure it will be worth it.

I don't know if anyone has stated it yet, but those that are interested, Ray stated there will be no upgrade charge to NT8 if you are already a lifetime license owner.

A 10x factor improvement in optimization (in some cases) was also something that I imagine caught your attention Ray said most of it came from memory optimization and reworking of the garbage collector. I'm very excited about this change personally since my primary use of NT is for algo dev.

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I've received many emails asking about when the webinar reply will be available, I am working on it right now (encoding) and will put it up in the next couple hours.

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I thought he said you could do it on a per instrument basis? Like ES data coming from IQFeed, and EURUSD data coming from InteractiveBrokers, for example? Just not a per-chart basis, meaning that one ES chart is IQFeed and the other ES chart is Zen Fire.

I will have to watch it again.

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Zondor, I think you are right and me wrong, I listened to the recording again and it seems it is based on type not product.

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A 10x factor improvement in optimization (in some cases) was also something that I imagine caught your attention Ray said most of it came from memory optimization and reworking of the garbage collector. I'm very excited about this change personally since my primary use of NT is for algo dev.

Mike

I am more interested in the Replay -> Playback feature that will go faster than 500x!

Hope they let it max out the CPU, in other words, no timing at all, just ASAP!

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I am more interested in the Replay -> Playback feature that will go faster than 500x!

But I am guessing you are only using Market Replay today due to limitations of the NT7 backtesting accuracy. He specifically mentioned accuracy as a main bullet point in the new backtesting engine, so to me that says that Market Replay will return to its intended use of "live, realistic market replay simulation and practice" instead of the way some algo developers have been using it which is "true/accurate" backtesting.

In other words, I hope to not use it since I am just doing algo dev.

BTW, I think you can get a significant boost in NT7 MR speed if you setup a ramdisk. Search on futures.io (formerly BMT) for ramdisk thread.

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But I am guessing you are only using Market Replay today due to limitations of the NT7 backtesting accuracy. He specifically mentioned accuracy as a main bullet point in the new backtesting engine, so to me that says that Market Replay will return to its intended use of "live, realistic market replay simulation and practice" instead of the way some algo developers have been using it which is "true/accurate" backtesting.

In other words, I hope to not use it since I am just doing algo dev.

BTW, I think you can get a significant boost in NT7 MR speed if you setup a ramdisk. Search on futures.io (formerly BMT) for ramdisk thread.

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It might just be me, but I kinda like the "replay" concept as that will better match a forward test (to the ticke and L1 & L2). It would be nice to know the difference between the NT8 Backtest and Playback. I wonder if they will be the same, just one allows step by step and the other is done rapidly without the GUI overhead.

Might be a good question...

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