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Spreads experiance ?

Hi

Does anybody have experience of creating spreads on ninja trader?

Example being buy DOW future, sell NASDAQ future

I know I have to account for contract and tick value, and have manually traded them for many years (scalping) (few seconds in and out) , i want to now look at them on charts and apply technicals / indicators for a longer term basis 1 , 3, 5 min charts.

I dont intend to trade them via ninja, just chart

But wanted to know if anybody had worked out an efficent manor in which to chart them, how well they chart, and any issues with the the data aligning (birthday)

Also what types of charts you use and indicators that you find work well

Any info wI'll be much appreciated

Thanks


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Hello,

There is a thread here on futures spread trading

https://futures.io/index-futures-trading/13505-spread-trading-futures-2.html

Here is a chart with spread candelsticks of ES/NQ

I want to learn the technique of spread trading but there is not much written material on it.
Can you elaborate your method of spread trading? Are you trading spreads of same month/calender spreads?

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spread / es/nq


Hi

what you have to do is account for differences in contract value and quote the spread in money terms

This is done by accounting for the value of one point / tick

the value of a ES contract is 70,000 usd

the value of a nq contract is 55,000 usd

so there is a difference of 15, 000

In effect you would find a ratio that have you the least difference

3* es = 210,000
4* nq = 220,000 so diff is 10,000 but on a larger position so the actual error is allot less in % terms

however you can still trade 1 againgst 1 if that your size or what you feel comfortable with.

If scalping it wont make much difference as you wont be holding positions that long.

however if one contract was work 70,000, and the other 40,000, you would NEVER trade this 1 against 1, even short term scalping, would have to be 1 against 2

so chart the spread accounting for the contract values

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