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Release date for NinjaTrader 8

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While I (mostly) agree with the above, in sentiment, I tire of software products being rushed to deployment in a deficient state. I applaud NT for working to deliver a quality, viable, stable product.

If, however, NT8 ends up being functionally deficient and error-laden after the extended wait, it will be a very sad day.





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Well Mr. Deux,

In one of your "introductions" to the fabled NT8 you said "it will definitely be out before end 2014". Today is in fact past that date.

I am waiting patently, but grow agitated at the prolonged release of NT8 Beta. Any update on the release? I even opened a brokerage account for the sole reason of getting my hands on NT8 Beta as soon as possible; now wondering if that was a mistake.

I know that you are most likely not prepared to release a set date as of yet, but any general time-frame would be appreciated before I seek other alternative methods for automating my trading. I am sure I am speaking for a large number of your faithful NT users.

On a side note has anyone played around with Multi-Charts.Net it uses C# similar to NT, with a low learning curve converting code to it. Backtests are even done on tick by tick basis, which is a sour spot for me with NT.

This post is not meant to be a bash on NT, I love the product and have several Life-time licences, just getting tired waiting for progression of the platform as so many of the competitors are bypassing NT.

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While I (mostly) agree with the above, in sentiment, I tire of software products being rushed to deployment in a deficient state. I applaud NT for working to deliver a quality, viable, stable product.

If, however, NT8 ends up being functionally deficient and error-laden after the extended wait, it will be a very sad day.

100% agree, I prefer quality over speed any day, but how long is too long?

For example:

Many of you know I am a fan of Point and Figure, but cannot trade it with Ninjatrader.
reference:
Please fix Point & Figure implementation - NinjaTrader Support Forum

This issue was brought to the attention of NT May 2011, and the fix was to be implemented in a update to NT7, but never was. Ray mentioned that the fix would be corrected in NT8. We are approaching four years for a fix to a charting method that is extremely popular among veteran traders. It is my opinion that this is a FAIL on the part of Ninjatrader. Whats your thoughts; is this a quality issue or a lack of addressing the needs of NT users?

SodyTexas

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It will be relist before...
NT9

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It will be relist before...
NT9

I certainly hope not.

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I certainly hope not.

What? Do you think it will be relist after NT9?

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Many of you know I am a fan of Point and Figure, but cannot trade it with Ninjatrader.

SodyTexas

What are you currently using?

I use PnF using an implementation by Richard Todd and it seems to work.
Do you have an example of a current chart of ES that shows the correct PnF bars?

Thanks

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What are you currently using?

I use PnF using an implementation by Richard Todd and it seems to work.
Do you have an example of a current chart of ES that shows the correct PnF bars?

Thanks

I follow the Jeremy du Plessis method via "The Definitive Guide to Point and Figure", CQG Integrated Client also, follows the same rules. I don't trade ES and don't know the proper box size for ES, but I do trade GC (CQG = GCE) and will attach a image of that.



FYI, CQG Integrated Client is expensive.

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SodyTexas View Post
GC (CQG = GCE) and will attach a image of that.
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Here is the NT PnF chart and the Richard Todd PnF.

The NT settings are
Last
PointAndFigure
Tick
1
12
3
HighsAndLows.
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The other Pnf is
35 Tick with 3 box reverse.
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I'm not sure either one are what you need but I wanted to compare them for my curiosity.

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Here is the NT PnF chart and the Richard Todd PnF.

The NT settings are
Last
PointAndFigure
Tick
1
12
3
HighsAndLows.
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The other Pnf is
35 Tick with 3 box reverse.
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I'm not sure either one are what you need but I wanted to compare them for my curiosity.

My issue is not setting up the chart but the session breaks with Ninjatrader. Take a look at my first post today and follow the link, it will explain my trepidation with PnF and Ninja.

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I remember someone making a joke about Windows 10 being out before NT8...

While I am happy with NT7, there are quiet a few features teased for NT8 that I would like and would make a difference to my trading.

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