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Release date for NinjaTrader 8

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@NinjaTrader

With NT7 release we had to apply to be included in the beta testing group. This release seems to be more cryptic, I've only heard that the first wave is going to be your brokerage clients - is this going to be a beta release? I am not NT brokerage client but would still be interested to have access to pre-final release as I have plenty of non-standard code (custom plot, classes, etc.). I remember how long it took for NT7 to get from beta to final release and I would gladly use that time to convert the code and make sure it will work fine (we do need to have our own betas after all).
I am not trying to press you into anything just a bit more clarity or if this has been explained before please refer me to this info.

NT8 will become public beta with access to anyone, existing clients and new clients independent of brokerage.

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Hi @ NinjaTrader

I'm a senior soft dev in the daytime just as many many guys over here (some with >30yrs of experience).
There is a lot of "smells" around this release even if it's a major one - do you have a public release plan and strategy (I'm not talking about a random post on the forum) or is it someone asking some 3-4 devs about the dates every now and then? To be honest I can't imagine my estimate releases/milestones etc (whatever it is alpha, beta etc) to slip for more than couple of weeks and then keep pushing it with false promises. Be more transparent with your clients and pick one:
1) you don't know - plain and simple
2) admit that yeah you are really delayed (whatever it's being understaffed, agile or whatever you use didn't work out) and and go to point 1
3) we do have running alpha and done all pen-testing, perf testing etc in our pipeline and now we are "fine tuning" (if so what are you fine tuning?) and then go to point 2
4) yes we have a release date to be this and that
5) something else - well can your architect's answer then - or let him write a post, I bet a lot of people over here will understand him

Simple - it's not magic - I always quote my friend "it's simple, there is electricity or there isn't, 1 or 0"*
In essence "assignment statements, if statements and loops" (sequence, selection and iteration) - nice Uncle Bob reference.

Please stop going around the houses with: "maybe I may not as I would if I could not likely but unfortunately we are happy to no necessarily announce that" - which sounds like a really bad sales pitch/answer not bringing anything to the table just leaving with more questions.

Disclaimer:
I like the software and the support is great, but answers like that just hurt my soft dev soul.

*meant to simplify - I have electrotechnology background as well and know it's not as that simple

Thank you
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Must agree with EnsoTrader. NT clients asking just about the transparency. Speak about your project, about expectations, problems, etc. We are ready to hear anything, but, please, just tell more. And clients will grant your company with understanding and loyalty. Thanks.

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Having a lingering question about whether you guys will be making a version to run on the Mac.
But, let's get version 8 out first


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Fair question.

NinjaTrader 8 beta will be released in waves (we took this approach with NT7 as well) with availability to the initial group no later than the end of April but likely sooner than that. I will provide more information as we draw nearer to that date.

Ray

We finally got something concrete. Thank you.

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We finally got something concrete. Thank you.

Don't get you hopes up. Ray also said it will be released before 2015 in a futures.io (formerly BMT) webinar.

I stand disappointed, and firmly take the stance of "I will believe it when i see it".

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If you are a NT Brokerage client like myself, an even bigger issue (to me, at least) is the release of NT mobile or some other kind of alternative gateway as soon as possible. At the moment, if something goes wrong with your computer setup during trading, your only choice is to call a phone number. Some kind of stopgap mobile access is really needed asap. It doesn't need to have all the bells and whistles. Just a panic liquidate all button. Just my two cents...

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If you are a NT Brokerage client like myself, an even bigger issue (to me, at least) is the release of NT mobile or some other kind of alternative gateway as soon as possible. At the moment, if something goes wrong with your computer setup during trading, your only choice is to call a phone number. Some kind of stopgap mobile access is really needed asap. It doesn't need to have all the bells and whistles. Just a panic liquidate all button. Just my two cents...

I use teamveiwer for that. Remote in to my trading server for my android phone. Give it a try; it's free for personal use.

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I use teamveiwer for that. Remote in to my trading server for my android phone. Give it a try; it's free for personal use.

You've misunderstood. He needs a backup solution, not a remote desktop solution.

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You've misunderstood. He needs a backup solution, not a remote desktop solution.

Mike

gotcha, what if you have ninjatrader on a server; I use Amazon Web Service. It has a 99.99% uptime. Then load a Windows 7 workspace. I have never had any down time with Ninjatrader.

Now I can remote in from anywhere as long as I have a internet connection. My house could blow up and I would still be running my automated systems.

But yes an alternative method from Ninja trader would be optimal.

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