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hello,

just asked myself if its possible to use a tradingkeyboard for 1 button order execution in ninjatrader.

see the attached pictures as an example

any ideas?

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It should, and if it's not working, it should not be to hard to program something in NinjaScript.

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hello,

thanks for your answer sam.

are you a programmer or can one of you experienced programmers in this forum confirm that it should be possible.

i wrote an email to a company that sells those kind of keyboards. i will post what they answered.

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philip , a programmer would need to know more of the technical aspects of the device to confirm ... unfortuantly I wasen't able to find any technical info besides that its connecting via USB on their website.

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hello,

thanks for your answer sam.

are you a programmer or can one of you experienced programmers in this forum confirm that it should be possible.

i wrote an email to a company that sells those kind of keyboards. i will post what they answered.

These devices tend to simulate key strokes. I don't know much about the NT7 single key trading system, but if there is a key stroke which accomplishes this task, these are likely to work for that application. May need something to translate the keyboard keystroke into NT7 keystrokes. But that is it.

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hi david,

in the email i wrote to the company that sells these keyboards i concretely asked if they know if its working with ninjatrader. i am waiting for an answer.

concerning to technical aspects, what do i have to ask them if they dont know if its working with nt? what kind of information do a programmer would need, to be able to give a correct answer?

in the meantime i found the following page with a few technical infos on the programmable keypad they sell

X-keys XK-24 Programmable Keypad

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hi david,

in the email i wrote to the company that sells these keyboards i concretely asked if they know if its working with ninjatrader. i am waiting for an answer.

concerning to technical aspects, what do i have to ask them if they dont know if its working with nt? what kind of information do a programmer would need, to be able to give a correct answer?

in the meantime i found the following page with a few technical infos on the programmable keypad they sell

X-keys XK-24 Programmable Keypad

Your problem is: as first step you must self create a keyboard design with your own key layout and a description per Key, what you well do, when its pressed... what well you see on the screen, in a infobox, in a dialog,..

With this its posssble to create a detailed request to realize a NT7 strategy as "connector" to your Keyboard.
While I have here a vendor state, i can only say: For more informations and/or request you can send me a PM.


CH... i think you can also use this "german" linfo link... is a german provider of Trading-Hardware with a own (proffesional) TradingKeyboard portfolio...

TradingKeyboards - Trading-PC

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These devices tend to simulate key strokes. I don't know much about the NT7 single key trading system, but if there is a key stroke which accomplishes this task, these are likely to work for that application. May need something to translate the keyboard keystroke into NT7 keystrokes. But that is it.

Dont use KeyStrokes... is not secrure... a hard programmed API-Interface to use your LOM and a possible SymbolSelect inside a nice little strategy, this is here the best solution

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thanks for answering timetrade.

actually i dont need a large keyboard like the one shown on the page your link is directing me.

what i would like to have is a "simple" 1 push order executing keypad.

what i am thinking about (for the beginning) is, to give a bit more concrete example

1 button for buy market 1 contract
1 button for sell market 1 contract

1 button for buy market 2 contracts
1 button for sell market 2 contracts

1 button for breakeven position

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They give something called "MacroWorks", so you won't need some NT custom add-on. They also have a SDK, so it will be usable.
@philipp, FYI, I think I can write I'm an "experienced programmer".

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They give something called "MacroWorks", so you won't need some NT custom add-on. They also have a SDK, so it will be usable.
@philipp, FYI, I think I can write I'm an "experienced programmer".

with MacroWorks you can realize al direct "key functions"... the problem of key simulations... its need the right application with the right focused windows.

And a warranty to true switch any time from any other app/dialog/... to a 100% secure defined NT7 window is not realistic. For simulate real order hotkeys its need a bidirectional check:
- is the right instrument selected
- is no other order currently running, while its need a repeat logic to prevent more as one orders per single KeyPress
I have see any desks, a only MacroBased solution work only on a stable fixed trading desktop... no Dialogs of other applications, no popups, chat messages,.. while this i self dont have a good feeling

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hello sam, hello timetrade,

thanks for your interest.

the pad had to look similar like the one 1 found here X-keys 84 Key Programmable Keyboards
it can be easily customized with larger keycaps and key blockers so that f.e. the buy and sell buttons are the size of four regular buttons.

after first thoughts the pad must have the following buttons

5 buy buttons from 1 - 5 contracts
5 sell buttons from 1 - 5 contracts
1 button for breakeven the position
1 button for closing the position
1 button for reversing the position
1 button for increasing stop loss 1 point
1 button for decreasing stop loss 1 point

the keypad had to work with atm strategies like stoploss and target profits for multiple contracts

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- is the right instrument selected --> i only trade the fdax
- is no other order currently running while its need a repeat logic to prevent more as one orders per single KeyPress ??? only stop loss order if i add to a position

I have see any desks, a only MacroBased solution work only on a stable fixed trading desktop... no Dialogs of other applications, no popups, chat messages,.. while this i self dont have a good feeling
--> my computer is not a pure trading computer (skype, google running while trading etc.) is that what you mean could be a problem?

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Might I ask how much are one of these things?? I have a CNC machine and some keyboard encoders lying around. I could whip one out in a weekend. Just curious. I am thinking a nice oak one would look slick LOL

Actually i was thinking this same idea last week

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For a true secure function with possible auto stop settings, "over zero" enlarge/reduce of positions and/or stops in any combinations its dont can be realized with simple macros(without a rulebased and current position based logic).

The first logical step is the realization of a Screendialog with the same logical visual Buttons. For this its possible to programm the special logic per Button and realize all needed background security/stop rules.

When this work, then this can be used as TouchScreenPad or its can connected to a special Keyboard-Hardware.
Tradingfunctions and keyboard connect... this give separate parts of work. While this, a special screen based customized "PadTrader" is a nice basic tool and can also used standallone

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hi timmy,

this is the one that i have chosen eBay: Neue und gebrauchte Elektronikartikel, Autos, Kleidung, Sammlerst?cke, Sportartikel und mehr ? alles zu g?nstigen Preisen

rest is programming.

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