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Showing Stop Orders in Ninja/cause you to be taken out

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Hi Toast. The problem with IB is if the auto daily logoff thing. To restart the data feed after the auto logoff you have to restart ninjatrader as well. If you don't shut Ninja down before restarting TWS it says "loading" on the charts that use IB data. I use the ^tick symbol from IB. If I don't use their data for anything, as you say it can just be reconnected.

The other problem is if I am out and the auto logoff kicks in my stops won't move to breakeven until the connection is re-established as Ninjatrader confirmed in an earlier post.

In any case, I did find this TWSStart which I just installed from this thread. I will test it out this week to see if it works. Hopefully this IB auto logoff issue will be a thing of the past.



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From this link on Sierra's site

Sierra Chart - Supported Data and Trade Services

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They show their supported trade & data services.

If you punch thru the name links you will find a listing

in the "What's included section" which shows who

has Server Managed OCO orders.
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I LOVE the IB thing with OCO and I couldn't bear to have it any other way.

Out in Bangkok we do have our fair share of internet/power outages, although it's been a while since I had one. My PC has done a few random reboots though and I don't even pick up the phone if it happens when I'm in a trade as I always have an OCO on for this very reason.

I know IB commissions aren't the best but it really is a trouble-free service in my opinion.

So you are entering those oco trades directly into TWS and not NT7?

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No, I enter them in Ninja either manually or via ATM

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When people say that "hard stops" are "are visible in the order book", how and who can view them? As far as I (rather basically) understand it, the order book contains limit orders. How would one view stop orders? Can they be viewed on a platform such as IB?

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No, I enter them in Ninja either manually or via ATM

Hi @DionysusToast

stupid question, what when the power goes out exactely in the moment you are manually enter the oco order in Ninja?

I ask because today (after I purchased NT Live) I found out about this issue.

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Hi @DionysusToast

stupid question, what when the power goes out exactely in the moment you are manually enter the oco order in Ninja?

I ask because today (after I purchased NT Live) I found out about this issue.

thanks

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I have a UPS, so the power never goes out straight away, I have 5 mins to take evasive action.

I guess the phone likes could go down too - but I also have 2 internet connections and a load balancing router that should switch over when a line drops.

Fact is - there's always scope for it going down at the wrong time. It hasn't yet and I just try to get as safe as possible.

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When people say that "hard stops" are "are visible in the order book", how and who can view them? As far as I (rather basically) understand it, the order book contains limit orders. How would one view stop orders? Can they be viewed on a platform such as IB?

Hi,
This thread is a bit old but I second the question about the visibility of the stop orders.

How can a stop order be spotted before it was triggered? A stop limit will enter the order book as it reaches its price and a stop market order (which as far as I know is a regular stop?) will enter the tape as a market order after execution, right?

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Hi,
This thread is a bit old but I second the question about the visibility of the stop orders.

How can a stop order be spotted before it was triggered? A stop limit will enter the order book as it reaches its price and a stop market order (which as far as I know is a regular stop?) will enter the tape as a market order after execution, right?

Thanks in advanced!

I'm also curious about this basic question.

A normal stop order is a trigger to execute at the market when the trigger price is traded at. As such, it should NOT appear on the order book as it's NOT a limit order.

Does some other order book exist which shows where stops are located? Surely this might be the case if the order is said to reside at the exchange?

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Has anyone use these MIT orders?

https://ninjatrader.com/blog/hide-orders-from-the-market-using-market-if-touched-orders-mit/

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