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Basics of SbS Renko charting needed

I have spent some time with SbS Renko lately. (Median Renko would be simpler to
understand, however the only programmer I know of that can do it isn't selling it.)

I have enclosed a screen shot that roonius (the programmer of SbS Renko) has
posted. Most of us know how to explain in laymans terms how a candlestick chart,
for example, is created. I can't figure out how a SbS is created though.

Shadows on some SbS Renkos are longer than entire SbS Renkos elsewhere, on the
same 10 tick chart.

The right image shows the right side of this chart (zoomed in). We can see some
SbS Reknos without shadows are shorter that other SbS Reknos, also without shadows
(at the top of the bull move). Yet this entire chart is a 10 tick chart.

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I have spent some time with SbS Renko lately. (Median Renko would be simpler to
understand, however the only programmer I know of that can do it isn't selling it.)

I have enclosed a screen shot that roonius (the programmer of SbS Renko) has
posted. Most of us know how to explain in laymans terms how a candlestick chart,
for example, is created. I can't figure out how a SbS is created though.

Shadows on some SbS Renkos are longer than entire SbS Renkos elsewhere, on the
same 10 tick chart.

The right image shows the right side of this chart (zoomed in). We can see some
SbS Reknos without shadows are shorter that other SbS Reknos, also without shadows
(at the top of the bull move). Yet this entire chart is a 10 tick chart.

SbSRenko is build same way as regular Renko - it evaluates the price and ignores the time.

Rules for building any renko chart (or SBS Renko):

1. If last bar was "Green", the next bar will close as:
a. "Green" if next bar's close will be "X" ticks higher than Current Bars close.
b. "Red" if next bar's close will be (2 * "X") ticks lower than Current Bars close.

2. If last bar was "Red", the next bar will close as:
a. "Green" if next bar's close will be (2 * "X") ticks higher than Current Bars close.
b. "Red" if next bar's close will be "X" ticks lower than Current Bars close.

"X" - your brick size.

NT 6.5 (and unfortunately NT 7) does not allow you to change bars "Open" price after actually opening it, that's why SbS and MedianRenko workarounds were built.

NT 7 uses goofy workaround - they introduced method which allows you to remove last bar - in that case if you need to change open price - you have to remove last bar and then re-add it with different opening price - silly approach IMHO. Still better than nothing.

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Thanks roonius

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Hi roonius,

I downloaded your sbs renko and it works but I can't use the extra option.
You said:

"For those who feel confused with double sized bodies I created additional ChartStyle called SbSrenko. You can find it in Chart Properties dialog."

Can find this ?

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All right. Now it works!

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Hi I'm revisiting renko bars.

Can we say that the only difference between SBS renko and normal renko is that sbs will show all price movement that would be hidden in a normal renko bar. that is the wicks & tails of the bars?

I see more bars with sbs renko and I don't know why.

Here's an example. Both are set to 3 ticks, top is renko and bottom is sbs renko.


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Thanks for keeping the topic alive Cunparis . I like sbs renko bars and found them useful . The thing I cant wrap my head around is what determines the end of a bar and why are some different sizes . I asked Roonius in the past about that and he replied that its based on ticks . If anyone can boil it down for me ( what determines the end of an sbs renko bar and why are some different sizes ) in detail Id appreciate it . Im sure others will appreciate the knowledge .

The fact that some are different sizes is what I find useful . They produce reversal patterns and inside/outside bars that are very distinct .

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Thanks for keeping the topic alive Cunparis . I like sbs renko bars and found them useful . The thing I cant wrap my head around is what determines the end of a bar and why are some different sizes . I asked Roonius in the past about that and he replied that its based on ticks . If anyone can boil it down for me ( what determines the end of an sbs renko bar and why are some different sizes ) in detail Id appreciate it . Im sure others will appreciate the knowledge .

The fact that some are different sizes is what I find useful . They produce reversal patterns and inside/outside bars that are very distinct .

Let's say you have 3 tick bar like mine above. You open a bar at 100 after a green candle. Price moves up 2 ticks. If it moves up another 1 tick it'll close a new bar and you'll have 2 bars.

Let's say instead of going up another tick, it goes down 2 ticks. Now you're back at the open. Now it goes down 5 ticks. it won't close. if it goes down 1 more tick, that'd be down 6 and 6 = 3*2 so it'll close the bar and the bar is 8 ticks long.

So you can have a bar minimum of x ticks and maximum of 2*x + x-1 ticks. Using 3 ticks example: 2*3 + 3-1 = 6+2 = 8 ticks.

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OK , that makes sense now . Thanks for that .

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