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Unofficial NinjaTrader 8 wish list thread (NT8)!

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The point is Ninja Trader development team sucks big time. I wish they could change that.

Be nice and be helpful. Find a better way to describe it than just name calling, and offer up specific suggestions instead of only complaints.

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Be nice and be helpful. Find a better way to describe it than just name calling, and offer up specific suggestions instead of only complaints.

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Not sure if it's requested/mentioned anywhere above, but the ability to name a chart with text of my choice - and have it appear in my list of stacked charts when I click on the bottom windows taskbar - would be extremely helpful. I run with some instruments having multiple chart copies (same timeframe, diffierent indicators), so I can't distinguish between them when I am looking to bring up a specific chart. To make matters less consistent, every NT7 restart stacks the charts in a different sequence, and I cannot thus tell which is which without bringing them up.

I run with at least 35 charts across 10 monitors, and, believe it or not, I cannot (and do not need) have all active at the same time, but have specific charts for specific scenarios and needs.

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i would love to see ray come back and give us a progress report! wishful thinking, but it would be cool to see where they are taking NT8.. MC looks pretty cool now-a-days..

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i would love to see ray come back and give us a progress report! wishful thinking, but it would be cool to see where they are taking NT8.. MC looks pretty cool now-a-days..

You bet he will, as soon as he is ready. He took a beating with the delays on NT7 and doesn't want a repeat. Having doled out some of that beating personally, I can fully understand and agree with his decision to keep release dates and exact features close to the chest.

But he has mentioned a lot of NT8 stuff in his last two futures.io (formerly BMT) webinars. NT8 looks very exciting, I am waiting patiently (well, as patiently as I can) just like you guys.

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You bet he will, as soon as he is ready. He took a beating with the delays on NT7 and doesn't want a repeat. Having doled out some of that beating personally, I can fully understand and agree with his decision to keep release dates and exact features close to the chest.

But he has mentioned a lot of NT8 stuff in his last two futures.io (formerly BMT) webinars. NT8 looks very exciting, I am waiting patiently (well, as patiently as I can) just like you guys.

Mike

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...I can fully understand and agree with his decision to keep release dates and exact features close to the chest...
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Do you? Really? Sorry but why are you using Multi Charts then? Just curious...

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i would love to see ray come back and give us a progress report! wishful thinking, but it would be cool to see where they are taking NT8.. MC looks pretty cool now-a-days..

But you know, THAT would be - ah - professional and fully in line with - ah - accepted project management practice under - ah - proven agile methodologies, such as SCRUM.

As would be:

* Automated testing (cough).
* Public bug and user story planning sections where people could
* Vote for user stories and features.

But hey, it is more likely hell freezes or North Korea turns democratic than we see professional project management practices from our friends at NinjaTrader.

Especially as the software for that costs SO much money (a.k.a. zero or nearly zero, depending what they use internally).

Never forget, so far they are even too - ah - occupied (a.k.a. lazy) to just compile their software under .NET 4.0.

Personally I don't really care how he feels about being beaten for a bad job. As my mother used to say- if you can not stand the heat, do not work in a kitchen. Ninja release cycles suck and it seems that whoever plans them (noone?) either has a tendency to not do his work or simply does not care to sync Ninja for example with... ah ... stuff like windows releases. A big part of the disappointment is the "professional" maintenance and communication we see. Stuff like simply a .NET 4.0 build, for example. Or just an installer allowing us to move the local storage out of the profile and making Ninja behave nicely in an enterprise environment - well, I know, requires reading the specification how windows software should behave. Or just update 7.0 to use managed connectivity for Rithmic and TT - TT for example does not run under 64 bit because... they use a C++ fix library when these days there is a manged version. And do not provide a 64 bit version. Ouch.

Do you now that NInjaTrader is one of 2 (!) pieces of software with MS documented as not working with 2008 R2 Sp1?

Some programs have compatibility issues with Service Pack 1 for Windows 7 and for Windows Server 2008 R2

THAT takes a LOT of work Hundreds of thousands of programs out and NInjaTrader - which is not really complex to the OS (no driver, low level WMI or hardware stuff - basically drawing, file io and network access, all basic core functionality)

I just wish for a fast 7.1 release fixing some obvious bad things (managed quickfix, file locations, NT 4.0 compilation) and then moving to a DEFINED release cycle. I do not care whether they call it 7.1 or 7.2 or 2244 - I would like to havea small feature release regularly (3-4 months). Agile, you know.

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@Big Mike

Do you? Really? Sorry but why are you using Multi Charts then? Just curious...

I use Sierra Chart 99% of the time, as that is the only platform I use when discretionarily trading.

I use MultiCharts for backtesting, which is more a hobby than an income producer. I am not using it much any more due to lack of time on such hobbies.

I will use NT8 if it is superior for my needs to whatever I am using at the time. I am assuming you use whatever works best for you, yes? Is that a problem?

Do you want to question my word some more? Or have I answered you sufficiently so you can now believe what I type? I have a good relationship with Ray and NinjaTrader. Just because I don't use it currently doesn't mean I don't want to see it succeed, or that I am not looking forward to their next major release, which will make all platforms better through innovation and competition.

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Especially as the software for that costs SO much money (a.k.a. zero or nearly zero, depending what they use internally).

Ray has commented on this before, saying he feels that such a list is too public for his competitors to copy from. You can agree or disagree, but no need to bash him for his decision.


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Never forget, so far they are even too - ah - occupied (a.k.a. lazy) to just compile their software under .NET 4.0.

Perhaps they are focusing their developer resources on NT8, and not on NT7? That would seem to make a lot of sense to me. And I didn't even have to call them names to reach that conclusion, unlike you.


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Personally I don't really care how he feels about being beaten for a bad job. As my mother used to say- if you can not stand the heat, do not work in a kitchen.

I understand passion. I was very passionate about things I disliked about NT 6.5 and NT7. But guess what, I then stopped using it, instead of continuing to bash it. If you don't like it, don't use it, and turn your resources towards something more productive.

If you want NT8 to be a better piece of software, you might try "love" not "war" in as much as you could try making your points and offering assistance in a productive way, instead of insulting their work ethic.

If you don't care about NT, then leave the thread and don't come back. Otherwise your behavior is like a troll, and is not welcome here.

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