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Unofficial NinjaTrader 8 wish list thread (NT8)!

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Playback control = terrible

I'm surprised no one's mentioned the terrible Playback (Market Replay) control. If you want to playback a certain day, you have to 1) advance the start date to the day before 2) advance the end date to the exact morning you want and then 3) right click and choose Go To to punch in the date and time. A terrible UI.

On a related note, does Ninjatrader actually read this thread or are we all just complaining? Haha.

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I'm surprised no one's mentioned the terrible Playback (Market Replay) control. If you want to playback a certain day, you have to 1) advance the start date to the day before 2) advance the end date to the exact morning you want and then 3) right click and choose Go To to punch in the date and time. A terrible UI.

On a related note, does Ninjatrader actually read this thread or are we all just complaining? Haha.

I first posted on this in the "Ninjatrader 8 not ready for prime time" thread on May 4, 2018. I also posted a feature request on the Ninja support site about that time. I was not actually the first to post a feature request on the problem. You can read the post and a number of follow-ups here: https://futures.io/ninjatrader/41237-ninjatrader-8-not-ready-prime-time-24.html#post678668

Obviously, NT has to set their priorities about what they fix first, and they have had a lot to do. Also obviously, they have not fixed this issue. I assume it's not a high enough priority, which is affected to some extent by the number of votes given to the request (you can check out how to vote in those posts, if you want to.) They also clearly have to make a technical decision regarding where the most bang for the buck lies, in terms of allocating resources and time.

But obviously, we can do the same. (I'm on Sierra Chart now. Not just because of replay, but it was a -- small -- part of it.)

For the record, I still think NT is a good system, but you have to weigh the pros and cons of what's important to you.

Bob.

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I first posted on this in the "Ninjatrader 8 not ready for prime time" thread on May 4, 2018. I also posted a feature request on the Ninja support site about that time. I was not actually the first to post a feature request on the problem. You can read the post and a number of follow-ups here: https://futures.io/ninjatrader/41237-ninjatrader-8-not-ready-prime-time-24.html#post678668

Obviously, NT has to set their priorities about what they fix first, and they have had a lot to do. Also obviously, they have not fixed this issue. I assume it's not a high enough priority, which is affected to some extent by the number of votes given to the request (you can check out how to vote in those posts, if you want to.) They also clearly have to make a technical decision regarding where the most bang for the buck lies, in terms of allocating resources and time.

But obviously, we can do the same. (I'm on Sierra Chart now. Not just because of replay, but it was a -- small -- part of it.)

For the record, I still think NT is a good system, but you have to weigh the pros and cons of what's important to you.

Bob.

Ah, figures I wasn't the only one, thanks for the backup, Bob.

I actually enjoy using NJT as I've found them to be quite responsive once you've identified the issue as a bug. They usually get it out on the next release.

But when it comes to redesign stuff, I can see it from their point in that it would take some time to do that.

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Polish and refinement of market replay is the issue at the top of my list.

Actual tick by tick market replay and real life integration of the order flow tools is fantastic training, imo. Being able to pull days from long ago (that Im sure I no longer "remember") is priceless.

Ninja....I'm telling you, focus on this training by making market replay easy, powerful, a like real life w the order flow tools...and youll have a powerful training tool. That training tool will bring in lifetime-licence purchases and get you the most bang for your buck.

Don't make it how you think it should be made, make it so that it is easy and just like live market (w adjustable playback speed).

...having said that, I understand realistic order fills is difficult (impossible) but err on side of being conservative w the fills.

Anyway, a lot of this is there. Polish and refine.

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Polish and refinement of market replay is the issue at the top of my list.

Actual tick by tick market replay and real life integration of the order flow tools is fantastic training, imo. Being able to pull days from long ago (that Im sure I no longer "remember") is priceless.

Ninja....I'm telling you, focus on this training by making market replay easy, powerful, a like real life w the order flow tools...and youll have a powerful training tool. That training tool will bring in lifetime-licence purchases and get you the most bang for your buck.

Don't make it how you think it should be made, make it so that it is easy and just like live market (w adjustable playback speed).

...having said that, I understand realistic order fills is difficult (impossible) but err on side of being conservative w the fills.

Anyway, a lot of this is there. Polish and refine.

About a year ago I made a modest suggestion for a feature change to replay, to revert back to the NT7 behavior so it would be more usable for the users (I found it nearly unusable), and it is actually on the NT change list with a number and everything. (There was an existing request already open, actually, so this added to the "votes" for the change.)

Unfortunately, there are other things on the list too, and nothing came of this. If you'd like to look into it, take a look at this link and, if you like, add your "vote" if you are in favor of it, as other people did. They do tally the votes for feature requests, I understand:

https://ninjatrader.com/support/forum/forum/ninjatrader-8/platform-technical-sup...avior-of-go-to-or-slider ,

or you can make your own direct request on the NT board if you have something different in mind.

Since this is almost a year old, I doubt that anything will come of it, however, which is a shame. Different people find different things important, and I suppose this didn't appeal that much to the NT development team... and, of course, they have to prioritize things and they have had a big job with NT8, which is generally in good shape now.

I don't blame them, but since it was important to me, it's one of the reasons I left NT for Sierra Chart, which does replay just fine. I'm not bashing NT, but I wouldn't spend a lot of time waiting for them to get around to spending any time on replay.

(And, if they already fixed it and I just don't know about it because I don't use NT now, I'll feel a little foolish, but not very much. If they did fix it, it still took a long time.)

@NinjaTrader and the other members of the NT team are very good people, so, to repeat, I am not bashing them. But I am complaining a little....

Bob.


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@NinjaTrader

if you could make the ATM's stay on the tab they are assigned to and not go to (none) once the one is active on another tab that would make me super happy

i've sent a message into you guys

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Fix P&L not dipslayed when using latest TWS

In Chart Trader, executing through the lastest versions of IB TWS, NT8 doesn't display live P&L or realized P&L when flat. NT's solution is to downgrade the broker software.

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