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 NJAMC 
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It would be nice if Ninja could use multi core CPU a lot more. I use I7 CPU and it use max 15% and are very heavy to start becouse of some simpel data calculation in MarketAnalyzer and on chart. Why not let this go to different core.?

I think my request is related to this one. My testing has shown that the database engine has some problems. I don't think the performance is limited to the MS SQL CE, but due to the design and proper Indexes. I don't know if a DBA has looked at the structure, but for example, simply deleting all the data from a Replay should be almost instant if the data has proper indexes, but this can take hours on long runs.

Please look at the DB structure and/or allow an ODBC connection to MS SQL and MySQL so users can decide to upgrade if they choose or need to.

Also, time accuracy should be better than 1 second as this causes many problems with non-time based charts and strategies.

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(1) Ability to add a Trailing Stop to an Open Position. (without ATM strategy)
(2) Display Price on a Horizontal Line without having to use "constant line indicator"
(3) Display 10 levels of depth on the Dom instead of 5.
(4) Put a Volume Profile on the DOM.

Sorry if these were already mentioned.

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It would be nice to jump to a past date & time on a chart instead of scrolling back.

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Allow the importing of .cs files. If it compiles great, if not throw a warning message. But too many people try to import .cs and don't understand why it doesn't work.

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This was a nightmare for me, when I first start to use NT. I took me several days to understad why I could not install any indicator.

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1 - Tabbed Workspace.
2 - Provide a Market Profile.
3 - More Stability.
4 - High-Definition Charting
5 - Live Support [For those who owns NT]
6 - Dukascopy Broker!

Come on Ninja Trader you are nice people and I know you can do all the above; Please do not let me wait for so long.

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The ability to assign several indicators as a "group" as opposed to a "template".

For example, I think in Tradestation I had a set a 4 moving averages with types, colors, and sizes already assigned, that were locked as a single group and could be turned on and off of any template by a single selection.


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  • A naming convention for indicators that causes them to be logically grouped in the list of indicators that appears when indicators are added to a chart. Use a military style naming convention with names containing group categorization followed by spaces and punctuation characters in the this. Name property. For example, all Moving Averages would be grouped together because the this.Name property for every one would begin with the string "MA, ". All Oscillator names would begin with "Oscillator, " etc (See attachment)
  • The option of reporting trades either as reported by the exchange, or of re-bundling as one trade those transactions that happen within 1/100 of a second of each other.
  • The ability in the FormatPriceMarker method to apply multiple custom formats and values when an indicator has multiple plots, instead of being forced to format and value all the markers identically.
  • The ability to EXACTLY CLONE a chart, including all DataSeries settings.
  • Combining the Bid, Ask, and Last files into one file that is properly sequenced and has millisecond time stamps based on EXCHANGE time.
  • Providing for batch updating of replay data for a date range and for a number of instruments, instead of current method of one instrument at a time, one day at a time.
  • Providing for the handling of stack overflow errors without crashing the application.... can this be done?

Yes please.
Ability to create "Groups" so we can assign Indicators and/or Templates as we chose into groups.
As is I have an inordinate list of both to scroll through, that often makes no sense even to me !

Your support btw, imo, is and always has been extremely good..many thx

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Attaching stop orders to drawing objects (rays and lines) would be awesome. It would greatly simplify stops behind trend lines or catching breaks of channels, trendlines, triangles....

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May fall along the lines of previously mentioned, if possible allow the user to arrange/group the indicators,
e.g. you can make group/folder for oscillators,moving averages,supp/res,etc. something besides them being arranged automatically by what the name is, having to scroll through whole list hunting.

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1 - Tabbed Workspace.
2 - Provide a Market Profile.
3 - More Stability.
4 - High-Definition Charting
5 - Live Support [For those who owns NT]
6 - Dukascopy Broker!

Come on Ninja Trader you are nice people and I know you can do all the above; Please do not let me wait for so long.

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1 - Tabbed Workspace.

I believe Ray confirmed this already on the last futures.io (formerly BMT) webinar, this is a done deal for NT8.

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allow us to change/remove the f1 help hotkey!

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I believe Ray confirmed this already on the last futures.io (formerly BMT) webinar, this is a done deal for NT8.

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@mrphr ,maybe something to check out found this here on futures.io (formerly BMT)
https://futures.io/136645-post12.html
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TabMaster -- Free Tab Utility - Case Against Faith

Hey, thank you! I will have look if it is works properly.

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A few things on my wish list

- Support more brokers for Live trading. Specifically LMAX & Dukascopy.

- FXPro DOM window needs to be resizeable. On high resolution monitors the window is too small.

- Allow post-facto trailing stops. For example I open a trade without any trailing stops. A few hours later when I think the trade has almost run it's course but I don't want to close it just yet and think I can squeeze a few more pips out of it. At that point I add a trailing stop to the trade.

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1) Ability to hide chart indicators without removing them from the list - sort of like master on/off switch or active/inactive.

2) Chart templates dialogs (both load or save) should, along with template names, show list of indicators with parameters saved within each. Also, chart template data structure should include field for descriptions.

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A preview picture of indicator when select, so it can give a indication of indicator.

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Chart: Ability to specify colors using rgb/hex instead of predefined system ones.

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I don't understand why many people complain about stability, I run NT with lots of indicators without any problems. It's really stable and fast for me. Helpdesk always helped me out if I ran into a problem. Always.

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Chart: Ability to specify colors using rgb/hex instead of predefined system ones.

You can already do this, just type in a value. For example, for chart background, I always use:

161, 161, 161

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You can already do this, just type in a value. For example, for chart background, I always use:

161, 161, 161

Just to clarify one thing-- in order to do this, you need to go to the Custom tab of the colors window and then right click on one of the white boxes in the bottom two rows before you can enter a RGB value. It took me a couple years before I realized I could do this

At some point, it would be nice if NT could store my custom values somewhere so I don't have to re-enter them.

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SierraChart has this awesome feature of applying a group of indies to an existing chart without deleting that chart's indies.

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SierraChart has this awesome feature of applying a group of indies to an existing chart without deleting that chart's indies.

Is that like just disabling existing ones so that they are not lost along with their parameters?
In general, any other simple things in SC that you'd like to see in NT8?

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Is that like just disabling existing ones so that they are not lost along with their parameters?
In general, any other simple things in SC that you'd like to see in NT8?

no, option is to delete existing indies or leave them be.

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no, option is to delete existing indies or leave them be.

I see, so NT8 should offer 3 options then, for existing indies on chart, when applying a template:
1) remove,
2) disable,
3) leave them be

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Inserting the exact copy of an indicator that's already on the chart including parameters. E.g. you have MACD on the chart, you right-click and select insert exact copy: that inserts MACD again with same parameters so that you can change just one rather than: inserting second MACD, making sure that all parameters are the same, and then you change one. This is especially helpful if input series is complicated, like double ma of close with diff lengths, or with custom indicators with many parameters.

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Just to clarify one thing-- in order to do this, you need to go to the Custom tab of the colors window and then right click on one of the white boxes in the bottom two rows before you can enter a RGB value. It took me a couple years before I realized I could do this

At some point, it would be nice if NT could store my custom values somewhere so I don't have to re-enter them.

No, not at all. Just highlight with mouse cursor the color value in any color box, then start typing.

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No, not at all. Just highlight with mouse cursor the color value in any color box, then start typing.

I just tried that: you can either type hex prefixed with # (e.g. type #7ea02f) or three rgb dec numbers separated by commas (e.g. type 126,160,47).

Thanks for the tip, but it is not obvious.

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I don't understand why many people complain about stability, I run NT with lots of indicators without any problems. It's really stable and fast for me. Helpdesk always helped me out if I ran into a problem. Always.

Then you probably are a exception, or you are very luck. Everybody knows that Ninja Trader is not so stable and there is also some bugs.

I have had execution problems in the past when I was with PFG Best; And PFG blames NT and NT blames PFG. Very nice.

Yesterday I woke up and turn on my NT and then in two of my charts my indicators disappear completely; I had to put them all back again. Very nice.

A couple of white screen in the past as well. Very nice also.

One day I will come to the point where I can use CQG; As for now I still using NT for charting, but for execution I start to use Multi Charts.

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@mrphr ,maybe something to check out found this here on futures.io (formerly BMT)
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I couldn't tell if it was doing anything...

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I couldn't tell if it was doing anything...

Hi, yes it works fine, but you can not put more than one chat on the same tab, you can have many tabs but on each tab you can put only one chart. Which in my case does not help much, as I wanted to have more than one chart on each tab.

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Then you probably are a exception, or you are very luck. Everybody knows that Ninja Trader is not so stable and there is also some bugs.

I have had execution problems in the past when I was with PFG Best; And PFG blames NT and NT blames PFG. Very nice.

Yesterday I woke up and turn on my NT and then in two of my charts my indicators disappear completely; I had to put them all back again. Very nice.

A couple of white screen in the past as well. Very nice also.

One day I will come to the point where I can use CQG; As for now I still using NT for charting, but for execution I start to use Multi Charts.

i dont ever really have any stability issues with NT.. just bad indicators..

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It would be useful if NT8, when it is finally released, has a multilingual feature. I know many Chinese traders who want to trade the US markets because the restrictions on futures trading are so cumbersome domestically. However, besides the Chinese in Singapore and some in Hong Kong, most mainlanders do not speak English, but they are precisely the ones who are yearning most to send and trade their money abroad. If NT was available in Chinese, I don't doubt it would set new records in terms of luring hundreds of thousands of new traders who are kept away simply due to the language barrier, as NT is only in English it seems.

Additionally, it would be nice if there was a feature that automatically populated the 24/7 charts on NT7... is it only me or there is no way to do this automatically?

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Additionally, it would be nice if there was a feature that automatically populated the 24/7 charts on NT7... is it only me or there is no way to do this automatically?

You would need to switch the default session template to Default 24/7 for the instruments that you trade if you desire to always have 24 hours of data displayed. This way when you automatically pull up a new chart this by default always uses Instrument settings for the session template automatically.

To do this go to Control Center->Tools->Instrument Manager->Edit the instruments that you trade by clicking the edit button after selecting the instrument. In this window you will want to change the Session template drop down to Default 24/7.

Once this is done for all instruments you trade each new chart you bring up will display 24/7 data automatically.

You can also manually set the session template per chart which overwrites this setting in the right click on the chart-> Data Series menu you will find the options to set the Session Template manually.

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i dont ever really have any stability issues with NT.. just bad indicators..

Yes, I know bad indicators can cause problems, but was not my case, when I had execution problems nobody knew exactly what was happen. [Like: "It could be this or it could be that and blah blah blah..."] And I had to swallow my losses.

However, white screen that I had was due to bad indicators, I just uninstalled them.

About my indicators that disappear a couple of days ago, that is a mystery and I still do not know what happened; Anyways...

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About my indicators that disappear a couple of days ago, that is a mystery and I still do not know what happened; Anyways..

Try opening up any of your remaining indicators in the Ninjascript editor and re-compiling using the F5 key or the Compile menu item. This should bring back your missing indicators.

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Making the charts....... spread charting friendly

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i dont ever really have any stability issues with NT.. just bad indicators..

@madLyfe,

I tend to agree about the stability. NT seems pretty good, sometimes a few hickups (mainly around NT updates, you might have to start twice), but generally bad software added upon their platform. They have exposed their system to external coders, there is only so much they can do to maintain stability at that point. I can write several indicators that will trash NT7, isn't really fair to blame NT for my errors, although I would like to at times.

I do feel they have some issues at the database layer which are causing performance issues. Some of these are clear when you are simply resetting the Replay database (Moving back in time) and it takes hours to reset. Clearly and Indexing fault or some other non-optimized SQL command. It should take seconds to delete all your old Replay Data.

So I think they own the database performance but not the stability issue...

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Sever side OCOs - automated strategies choices - basically a replacement for strategy runner. i thought strategy runner was slow before, but at least i could turn off the computer and the strategies would still run.

also a directory of automated strategies to choice from. collective2 works...but the commissions are expenisive to run the strategies.

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Global crosshair groups, so that the crosshair is only global in a linked group or some other way of defining the group to which the global crosshair setting applies. With this it would be possible to have the global crosshair only be global within the same instrument charts or so...

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* Sensible backtest - command line usable (Powershell) with database output. Right now I can not load 10.000 backtests runs automatically into a database to analyze them properly. Trade by trade for my own numbers like max weeks in loss etc.).

* Exportable backtes data, so I can run 10 strategies against the exact same data over time

* Extensible connectors - come on, let me introduce my own broker and data feed interfaces.

* OData interface to all relevant data so I can pull up excel and analyze my account or trades.

* Configurable sim accounts - plural. Let me set up multiple. Nice to isolate strategies there.

* Simulated trades WITHIN a strategy (not for the whole - let me open and close orders agaisnt sim in a live strategy - allows one to validate fills agaisnt ti, or tdo sim trading after a loss until a profit comes back up).

* SQL Server. Seriously. GET REAL.

* Drop the slow ORM you use and use a proper fast noe. BlToolkit or Linq2Db come to my mind - fast, slim and perfectly fit for stuff that is not a business object to start with.

* What about - attention - USING MULTIPLE THREADS FOR THE UI? Open every window with it's own message pumpt. It is VERY simple.

* Upgrade to WPF Faster drawing, a lot faster.

* Powershell. PLEASE.

* Release more often. Most important upgrade fast to .NET versions. 4.0 is MOSTL compatible with 3.5 - a 4.0 upgarde could have happened w ithin a month of the release.

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i think it would be cool to be able to set conditions on NT for auto change of contracts.. so i could set it up to manually start loading the next contract when volume is greater on one than the other..

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i think it would be cool to be able to set conditions on NT for auto change of contracts.. so i could set it up to manually start loading the next contract when volume is greater on one than the other..

Awesome Idea, I get a call periodically from my broker, this would save me a major headache!

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Awesome Idea, I get a call periodically from my broker, this would save me a major headache!

MultiCharts does this. and gives you several options to control how it works. Is quite nice.

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MultiCharts does this. and gives you several options to control how it works. Is quite nice.

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Multi Charts is winning the war; And by the time Ninja Trader decide to do something about it, it could be too late for them...


MultiCharts may be a better platform, but unless they extend their trial period beyond 30 days they will never gain the marketshare needed to overtake NT. Per their comments in a different thread they pretty much refuse to even consider the option of a trial extension.

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It was not my intention to derail this thread, so lets keep it on topic as much as we can.

But bottom line, competition is good. Without Chevy, Ford would have been dragging its heels, slow to innovate, over priced, etc etc. Competition is good.

I look forward to NT8. Based on what Ray has said in the past webinars on futures.io (formerly BMT), we can likely expect a new user interface, proper bid/ask persistent storage, and significantly improved efficiency/performance. The hard part is waiting.

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They certainly seem to have a slow release cycle.

I prefer companies release a core product with fewer but solid feature set and followed by frequent updates adding new features rather than take 2-3 years between releases.

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"Trend Channel" tool.
would be nice with some information on line like %, Angle.
And as always no limits of numbers of lines, same thing for fibonacci retracement.

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I have more:

* Realize this is the 21st century and crappy release cicles are YOUR problem.

Example: These days we can not connect to Rithmic or TT (fix protocol) with 64 bit because they... use native windows libraries to connect. WHich are only available in 32 bit.

How hard would it be for a point release (7.1=) to come out and replace those connectors with something not outdated? Rithmic has native .NET libraries (ergo they work also 64 bit) and for FIX you use QuickFix .NET wrapper. Interesting enough there now is QuickFix/n which is native .NET - and 64 bit again.

The list goes on. Years between releases and no real movement in between is off. I use a lot of third party tools in my work and they all release more often. Fr example Infragistics (nice UI controls) has a couple of releases per year. They put in new features as they can but always do maintenance (btw., the same UI library that NinjaTrader uses - but they supposedly stopped paying for it because the version they use in Ninja 7 is as outdated as the one for 6.5 was before).

I would expect more pushy releases to make sure things keep technology wise more current. For example you COULD easiyl release NinjaTarder 7.5 with full 64 bit support AND .nET 4.0 runtime. I am suree it would take less than 2 days to validate NinjaTrader works fine on .NET 4. I run a lot of projects over the last 15 years and I always push to keep the platform updated.

* Learn the rules of the platform you work on.

NinjaTrader = windows application. MS has guidelines for windows programs. Why do you not sit down and READ them. For example these days I can NOT run NinjaTrader using a non-local account (i.e. a domain account). So, wherever I use ninja I have to keep a separate set of logins available. This means I can not run Ninja on the machine I work on - I have to go into a virtual machine for anything, and I HAVE (!) to run a local account. AAAAAAAHHHH.

* Understand not everyone is barely scrapping away as programmer

Visual Studio as primary development environment is something many people would love. Make your own Project Type - it takes less than 3 days to learn how to extend visual studio. It brings a lot. Sorr, I really like the editor you ahv there (been using ActiPro myself at times) but your development environment is retarded compared to a real one like Visual Studio. No soruce control integration, funny compiler tricks, no unit testing possibility.

Finally some more constructive things:

* Provide a timer callback.

I have the point that we plan to not trade at specific times, including ripping out existing trades. Sadly trades are not running on time base charts. So we add a time based bar ONLY to get callbacks. Having a once per second timer would be good enough to do that. It also allows the strategy to write out time based reports (once per minute to the database for example) without the need to run a 1 minote or 1 second bar just for getting callbacks.

* Please a command line backtest scenario.

I often want to queue up 20 o 30 completely different tests but can not. It also would be really nice if those unit test results could be set up in a nice XML based format with all trades so those of us thinking there are better databases than the one you use could load them into SQL Server and run some real analysis on them. There is a lot to learn from proper analysis of data (like proit per week day, per day of trading correlating to the number of trading days before and after (so a lonely friday is taken out because thursday is no trade and saturday / suday too). IT also allows more interesting scenarios like sliding optimization.

* Support proper backtest scenarios

This means backtest + forward test (backtest 6 months, forward 2 months, comapre results). Standard sutff that is a little more inteesting than what TradeStations did years ago. Check Zorro Online Manual for some really interestign concepts that you should support, also from an analysis point of view.

And my favourite:

* Open your API. Get rid of the stupid multi broker and make a real pro version for more advanced users. Ninja is open API anyway (TT FIX - here I come) and it really lacks on the backtest and analysis methods. So, I can attach any data feed and proker already as programmer (so I never will pay multi broker) but OTOH... it looks not nice on advanced features.

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The point is Ninja Trader development team sucks big time. I wish they could change that.

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The point is Ninja Trader development team sucks big time. I wish they could change that.

Be nice and be helpful. Find a better way to describe it than just name calling, and offer up specific suggestions instead of only complaints.

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Be nice and be helpful. Find a better way to describe it than just name calling, and offer up specific suggestions instead of only complaints.

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Not sure if it's requested/mentioned anywhere above, but the ability to name a chart with text of my choice - and have it appear in my list of stacked charts when I click on the bottom windows taskbar - would be extremely helpful. I run with some instruments having multiple chart copies (same timeframe, diffierent indicators), so I can't distinguish between them when I am looking to bring up a specific chart. To make matters less consistent, every NT7 restart stacks the charts in a different sequence, and I cannot thus tell which is which without bringing them up.

I run with at least 35 charts across 10 monitors, and, believe it or not, I cannot (and do not need) have all active at the same time, but have specific charts for specific scenarios and needs.

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i would love to see ray come back and give us a progress report! wishful thinking, but it would be cool to see where they are taking NT8.. MC looks pretty cool now-a-days..

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i would love to see ray come back and give us a progress report! wishful thinking, but it would be cool to see where they are taking NT8.. MC looks pretty cool now-a-days..

You bet he will, as soon as he is ready. He took a beating with the delays on NT7 and doesn't want a repeat. Having doled out some of that beating personally, I can fully understand and agree with his decision to keep release dates and exact features close to the chest.

But he has mentioned a lot of NT8 stuff in his last two futures.io (formerly BMT) webinars. NT8 looks very exciting, I am waiting patiently (well, as patiently as I can) just like you guys.

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You bet he will, as soon as he is ready. He took a beating with the delays on NT7 and doesn't want a repeat. Having doled out some of that beating personally, I can fully understand and agree with his decision to keep release dates and exact features close to the chest.

But he has mentioned a lot of NT8 stuff in his last two futures.io (formerly BMT) webinars. NT8 looks very exciting, I am waiting patiently (well, as patiently as I can) just like you guys.

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...I can fully understand and agree with his decision to keep release dates and exact features close to the chest...
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i would love to see ray come back and give us a progress report! wishful thinking, but it would be cool to see where they are taking NT8.. MC looks pretty cool now-a-days..

But you know, THAT would be - ah - professional and fully in line with - ah - accepted project management practice under - ah - proven agile methodologies, such as SCRUM.

As would be:

* Automated testing (cough).
* Public bug and user story planning sections where people could
* Vote for user stories and features.

But hey, it is more likely hell freezes or North Korea turns democratic than we see professional project management practices from our friends at NinjaTrader.

Especially as the software for that costs SO much money (a.k.a. zero or nearly zero, depending what they use internally).

Never forget, so far they are even too - ah - occupied (a.k.a. lazy) to just compile their software under .NET 4.0.

Personally I don't really care how he feels about being beaten for a bad job. As my mother used to say- if you can not stand the heat, do not work in a kitchen. Ninja release cycles suck and it seems that whoever plans them (noone?) either has a tendency to not do his work or simply does not care to sync Ninja for example with... ah ... stuff like windows releases. A big part of the disappointment is the "professional" maintenance and communication we see. Stuff like simply a .NET 4.0 build, for example. Or just an installer allowing us to move the local storage out of the profile and making Ninja behave nicely in an enterprise environment - well, I know, requires reading the specification how windows software should behave. Or just update 7.0 to use managed connectivity for Rithmic and TT - TT for example does not run under 64 bit because... they use a C++ fix library when these days there is a manged version. And do not provide a 64 bit version. Ouch.

Do you now that NInjaTrader is one of 2 (!) pieces of software with MS documented as not working with 2008 R2 Sp1?

Some programs have compatibility issues with Service Pack 1 for Windows 7 and for Windows Server 2008 R2

THAT takes a LOT of work Hundreds of thousands of programs out and NInjaTrader - which is not really complex to the OS (no driver, low level WMI or hardware stuff - basically drawing, file io and network access, all basic core functionality)

I just wish for a fast 7.1 release fixing some obvious bad things (managed quickfix, file locations, NT 4.0 compilation) and then moving to a DEFINED release cycle. I do not care whether they call it 7.1 or 7.2 or 2244 - I would like to havea small feature release regularly (3-4 months). Agile, you know.

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Do you? Really? Sorry but why are you using Multi Charts then? Just curious...

I use Sierra Chart 99% of the time, as that is the only platform I use when discretionarily trading.

I use MultiCharts for backtesting, which is more a hobby than an income producer. I am not using it much any more due to lack of time on such hobbies.

I will use NT8 if it is superior for my needs to whatever I am using at the time. I am assuming you use whatever works best for you, yes? Is that a problem?

Do you want to question my word some more? Or have I answered you sufficiently so you can now believe what I type? I have a good relationship with Ray and NinjaTrader. Just because I don't use it currently doesn't mean I don't want to see it succeed, or that I am not looking forward to their next major release, which will make all platforms better through innovation and competition.

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Especially as the software for that costs SO much money (a.k.a. zero or nearly zero, depending what they use internally).

Ray has commented on this before, saying he feels that such a list is too public for his competitors to copy from. You can agree or disagree, but no need to bash him for his decision.


Quoting 
Never forget, so far they are even too - ah - occupied (a.k.a. lazy) to just compile their software under .NET 4.0.

Perhaps they are focusing their developer resources on NT8, and not on NT7? That would seem to make a lot of sense to me. And I didn't even have to call them names to reach that conclusion, unlike you.


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Personally I don't really care how he feels about being beaten for a bad job. As my mother used to say- if you can not stand the heat, do not work in a kitchen.

I understand passion. I was very passionate about things I disliked about NT 6.5 and NT7. But guess what, I then stopped using it, instead of continuing to bash it. If you don't like it, don't use it, and turn your resources towards something more productive.

If you want NT8 to be a better piece of software, you might try "love" not "war" in as much as you could try making your points and offering assistance in a productive way, instead of insulting their work ethic.

If you don't care about NT, then leave the thread and don't come back. Otherwise your behavior is like a troll, and is not welcome here.

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Is that a problem?
Do you want to question my word some more? Or have I answered you sufficiently so you can now believe what I type?
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..."I trust everyone, its the devil inside them, I dont trust"...

So to reiterate, I am very much looking forward to NT8, and I am very excited about some of the ideas Ray has mentioned he is working on (in his past futures.io (formerly BMT) webinars).

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2. New drawing tool - zone - something between rectangle and horizontal line.


It would be nice if the rectangle tool had a properties check box that allowed extending it to the extreme right or left like the fibs..





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The point is Ninja Trader development team sucks big time. I wish they could change that.

No, sorry. I do software for about 210 years. This is not the team - it is management that sucks. Company management and down Project management - if they are different.

Developers do not plan autoamted testing or not, and they do not make releasep lans and most of hte features. This is project maangement that has no technical lead developer that makes sure echnological platforms are up to date (or is just cheap - the version of UI controls NInja uses is so ancient it was programmed by infragistics at the time the pyramids were built - maybe they dont want to spend a little money on good UI?) and they definitely do not do the feature and release plan.

Ninja livesi in one of the most unprofessional environments for project management i have experienced as a customer. I Know a guy that swould probably rock their world, but he htakes 2000 USD to 3000 likely for a US trip - SCRUM master, was in one of my last projects and totally redid the project management approach, got sus 10 times as fast and responsive within 2 months. THere the project mangagement had the same attitude.

This is not the developers fault, it is 100% the manaagement approach. EVEN IF the developers are incompetent - it is still management not replacing them NEVER blame the developers for what is a structural issue on team and project management.

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Or just update 7.0 to use managed connectivity for Rithmic and TT - TT for example does not run under 64 bit because... they use a C++ fix library when these days there is a manged version. And do not provide a 64 bit version. Ouch.

NinjaTrader 7 does use managed code for Zen-Fire and Vision Financial Markets (Rithmic) and this is 64-bit compliant. Just make sure that in your connection settings, "Legacy API" is not checked. NinjaTrader 8 TT adapter will be managed code as we have removed the QuickFix layer and handled the FIX messaging ourselves.

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It would be nice if the rectangle tool had a properties check box that allowed extending it to the extreme right or left like the fibs..





extend right, left or both then it will be superior to SC rectangle tool

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1. make the line draw snap to vertical, snap to horizontal, perhaps with shift key. currently, finding a perfectly horizontal line requires using Ray or Horizontal Line, when what you really want is just a segment.

2. allow conversion of a segment to a ray, and a ray back to a segment.

3. and I repeat one already mentioned above to stress its importance, a drawn line in 1 min frame
should appear from beginning to its end in all other time frames. currently, it can disappear.

...and just to clarify my opinion, it took quite a bit to drag me away from Tradestation. Keep up
the good work NT.....

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In all my trading I have found that the market itself is the best indicator. As such, I have two charts that I rely on that currently must be created in another platform as I haven't been able to duplicate them in NT. These charts combine up to eight tickers into a single series of candlesticks; mostly these are contrarian tickers. In NT 8 it would be an outstanding addition to simply create a chart where the user can "sum" several symbols into one and show the resulting candles. Whether this is done in Instrument Manager or directly on the chart doesn't much matter; just as long as it can be accomplished.

Happy to provide more details should there be any questions.

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In all my trading I have found that the market itself is the best indicator. As such, I have two charts that I rely on that currently must be created in another platform as I haven't been able to duplicate them in NT. These charts combine up to eight tickers into a single series of candlesticks; mostly these are contrarian tickers. In NT 8 it would be an outstanding addition to simply create a chart where the user can "sum" several symbols into one and show the resulting candles. Whether this is done in Instrument Manager or directly on the chart doesn't much matter; just as long as it can be accomplished.

Happy to provide more details should there be any questions.

Thanks for your suggestion. Although not identical, you can create a multi-series indicators to derrive a single value and plot(s) it using any indicator plot type. What you can't do is plot it via a chart style.

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Dont' know if it's been requested:

Icons on menu bar for user to selectably assign a drawing tool to each (line/horizontal/vertical/arrow etc.etc).
And for colour palet and line thickness.

Direct one click for all.
No drop down menus !

This will avoid having to presently go through the multi-click process via either the "pen" drop down list
and /or the right click to change tool/colour/thickness etc...

Presently using two "indicators" as an example.
Kindly posted by other members.
But if they hadn't done then I would be..so to speak..



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NT 8?

I don't know, that's like 10 years away

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i would really like an auto saving of workspace files like word would do things.. if you crash out or NT crashes it would notify you that you have a saved workspace that you were working with before you crash and if you would like to bring that one back to life.. lets bring this puppy up-to-date..

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NJ7 uses two different ways to populate its color choices in drop down menus when the user is color coding his
tools or indicators. One of these ways is much much easier and faster, imho, than the other. And I would suggest NT8 lose the one and recreate it using the method of the other. The easier one can be viewed when choosing to change the color of an existing indicator, for example, a Mov Avg line. For such a change as that, the color can be accessed through the Properties dialogue box under Plots, which shows the color currently chosen in a little box. When that drop down menu is expanded, the colors are listed and grouped by their similarities to each other, from top to bottom, darker to lighter for each main category of color. The names of the colors are listed and can be used in programming code, but for regular use, who remembers these obscure names anyway? So the vertical listing by color group is ideal. But the other method employed, when changing a color of a drawn line, for instance, does not group colors into common classed, but instead, lists the colors by their alphabetical names, ascending order. This makes the viewing of the color universe jump back and forth from red to green to yellow to black and all the nuanced shades inbetween mixed up like a ransacked box of crayons. ...all to serve the alphabetical hierarchy within the drop down menu. it's a pain. Group them all by color commonality and the slider allows quick scrolling to the desired area. Leave them in alpha name order and add annoying and wasted time trying to rediscover and replicate a color chosen previously for some specific class of user preference trend line.

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OCO saved on server not PC (reduces risk of outage).

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@NinjaTrader

I trade with Chart Trader minimised.

I trade about six instruments, but some of them Live and others SIM.

I would like someway to mark on the chart if that instrument is set to SIM or the Live account. At present you have to maximise Chart Trader to see this.

Even if it was done by colouring the Chart Trader Maximise arrow/button to be the same colour as the the Chart Trader window - my Chart Tradeer background colour is set to yellow for SIM and the default colour for Live account.

I understand we cannot access 'Get.Account' to create our own indi to do this now.

I would also like the option of NT requiring a password when it first boots up. At the moment if my computer was stolen from home, some one could easily start up NT and trade my Live account.

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Are the new features, and NT8, written down anywhere, or is the info only available in the two webinars?

thanks

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Logins (user name and password) to successfully login to NT (for security purposes).

I find it a bit unbelievable that no logins are required for a live trading account. All my other brokerage accounts require logins.

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Logins (user name and password) to successfully login to NT (for security purposes).

I find it a bit unbelievable that no logins are required for a live trading account. All my other brokerage accounts require logins.

Ninja does too - you set it in the configuration which is part of your user profile, and on the computer. This is QUITE accepted practice, especially in larger companies ("single sign on"). Every password they would set on their end is bullshit anyway - it has to be stored somehow in your local system, so it can be bypassed (if not cracked then reset). Having a Ninja password would with 99% chance be false security.

Alternatively they COULD allow configuring a ocnnection WITHOUT password, then asking for the password on connect - that would be safe as the password to your broker would not be stored on your computer.

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I have often wondered why this hasn't been brought up more often as a concern... not a programmer, but don't think this would be that difficult to add...or not that it would be that big of a concern...but what about the ability to password protect your chart...ie not being able to open up a chart and change the settings or add an indicator from a chart unless password protected... could also password protect the ability to open a dom...just some thoughts...and no i am not being paranoid...I am sure some of this could be concerns for those that might not trade from their homes...


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@NinjaTrader

I trade with Chart Trader minimised.

I trade about six instruments, but some of them Live and others SIM.

I would like someway to mark on the chart if that instrument is set to SIM or the Live account. At present you have to maximise Chart Trader to see this.

Even if it was done by colouring the Chart Trader Maximise arrow/button to be the same colour as the the Chart Trader window - my Chart Tradeer background colour is set to yellow for SIM and the default colour for Live account.

I understand we cannot access 'Get.Account' to create our own indi to do this now.

I would also like the option of NT requiring a password when it first boots up. At the moment if my computer was stolen from home, some one could easily start up NT and trade my Live account.


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Has any sort of timetable or roadmap been announced at all by @NinjaTrader ?

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Has any sort of timetable or roadmap been announced at all by @NinjaTrader ?

Not that I am aware of.

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Quoting 
I would like someway to mark on the chart if that instrument is set to SIM or the Live account. At present you have to maximise Chart Trader to see this.
Even if it was done by colouring the Chart Trader Maximise arrow/button to be the same colour as the the Chart Trader window - my Chart Tradeer background colour is set to yellow for SIM and the default colour for Live account.
I understand we cannot access 'Get.Account' to create our own indi to do this now.

we can currently do this over a "half public" access to the ChartTraderPanel and readout the color property or use the internal NT7 SQL database...
-> i hope NT8 give a better support for official public access to any common features
-> currently the half of my time i must invest for tricky access source to use any of deep class / GUI access inside the NT7


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I would also like the option of NT requiring a password when it first boots up. At the moment if my computer was stolen from home, some one could easily start up NT and trade my Live account.

When this, then please give a secure method for permant disable this... all full automated trades need a better and secure way for userless start a pre configured workspace with restart a selection on any strategies after the broker/datafeed autoconnect... currently its need a very tricky code for full automated self controled start a strategy pool...

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i would like the ability when i am changing from time to tick to whatever that my 'days to load' dont change.

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i would like the ability when i am changing from time to tick to whatever that my 'days to load' dont change.

Yes -- put another way, when switching chart types, don't apply all the defaults. For example, if my 5m chart is OHLC and has 50 days, I expect that when I type "5000V" and enter, that the new chart will also be an OHLC and have 50 days. This is obvious but not the way it works now.

Also, I would like to see this long time known bug fixed:
Rectangle "disappears" when scrolling - NinjaTrader Support Forum

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OK, I've finally found some time to write down a comprehensive list of issues. I've been using Ninja full time for three years, including lots of beta testing. I trade live and automated only with it.

I should say first off, that the reason I stick with it is that I do think it is quite good, and I have far too much time and coding invested to easily switch to anything else.

So, I have a major vested interest in the product improving.

I have become quite frustrated though at the types of improvements, their priorities and the quality of the testing process. So, I'm afraid that frustrated tone may come over below. Please try and take my comments as constructive. Also, I haven't had time to check these so I apologise in advance if any of hese are incorrect, fixed or not Ninja's fault.


User Interface and usability
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The user interface can be made *much* more user friendly (some of these issues may be dot net or C# problems. I have no idea). The main problems are:

1. Inconsistency. For example, you never know whether the tab button will do what you expect. In the strategy tab, it doesn't cycle through the parameters as you'd probably like. In the instrument editor it does cycle through the fields.

2. Far too many mouse clicks (many requiring fine precision) (RSI!!) Let's say I want to add ten strategies for a few different instruments (sure you can put them in a list, but you might need to change parameters etc). When the new strategy window is up, one click in the instrument box to bring up the down arrow. Next click on the arrow to bring up the Instrument box. Next click on the type down arrow to bring up the type box (which is somewhat misnamed since most of the selections are instrument lists not types. If you want to use types, even more clicks since you have to type in the instrument, but then go back to the mouse for selection of contract) Next click is on the type/list. Next click on the instrument itself (I think this may actually be a one click improvement sometime in the last year.)

And guess what? If you want to change the instrument you can't. You can edit the strategy, but never change the instrument again. Not nice at rollover (which should be far more automated anyway)

3. Editor section collapse and expand. Just one hot key to do it. Simple. Wanted by more than one user for three years now.

4. When debugging, *every* time I compile I have to click on a dialogue box that says something like 'I am an adult and I promise to remember to switch debug off before going live'. Seriously guys, I'm all for helping new users but please have an expert mode.

5. Selections such as percent/currency do not persist between windows. I have to manually select currency *every* time one of these windows comes up.

6. A scheduler for scheduling tasks would be very useful.

Multi currency
--------------

Ninja allows trading in instruments denominated in different currencies. It even vaguely acknowledges the fact by putting your local currency symbol (£ for me) in the profit columns on the strategies tab, next to *every* currency amount. Switch to the account performance tab, and the Euro amounts that were listed as pounds are now listed with a dollar sign. In fact everything is now listed with a dollar sign. The same is true of backtest. Many of the amounts are simply wrong. The Gilt and the Bund are listed as dollars, and if you added a Bund profit to a USD loss elsewhere you could be in profit even though you are listed as being in loss.

All trading tools used primarily by professional traders handle multi currency. The fact that Ninja handles it very slightly is even worse than not at all, since it's inconsistent.


Professional Automated Day Trading
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If you want to do automated day trading professionally, you have a problem in Ninja. It is very difficult to get your backtest anywhere near reality. Unless you actually want to enter and exit on the close of a minute bar, you will suffer from being filled at a price that may well have never occured in reality. The only current non third party solution to this is to have a second series of 1 tick (or 1 range) data on which you do all entries and exits (does this mean you have to do unmanaged? I can't remember, but if so, that is a huge additional hassle)

You still have a major problem in that you'll never know whether the bid/ask would have filled you properly because there is no bid/ask in backtesting. So you have to test with default fill, even though you may get better fills in reality.

There are other problems associated with this. If you have holes in your tick data your backtest will look ridiculous because exits will occur on the first tick after the hole, which may be days later. Ninja's trade list will list entry and exit at the same time, for some strange reason, and you have a lot of detective work on your hands.

We all appreciate the differences between backtesting and live, but the backtesting process in Ninja *could* be made far more similar to live.

Evaluating Results
------------------

1. Related to the above section about professional trading. Many traders want to run a multi-strategy, multi-instrument portfolio. It's a way of reducing your risk, volatility and smoothing your equity curve. So of course you want to backtest that. You can, but you can't see most of the results. You can see your combined totals (although bizarrely the combined max drawdown is just the average drawdown, or something similar - you can't have an average and call it 'max'!! It's pointless and dangerous, since the actual max drawdown will usually be substantially higher)

3. Want to look at distribution, equity curve, daily net profit etc etc. for your combined results? You can't, those stats simply aren't available. Those of us who want to analyze our results properly have had to write our own code to do this!

2. For single broker users, often the most important filter for analysing account performance is By Strategy. But you can't because that doesn't exist. I understand that's on the enhancements list.



Backtest
--------

It would be useful to have a minimum trades parameter to filter results so that if you have a wide parameter space you don't end up with the top ten results being just a few trades each (or none)


Market replay
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1. Could Market Replay read all its available files on connection. If I add or download new files, after having used market replay, I have to completely restart Ninja to have Ninja spot these new files.

2. Could Market Replay please skip forward when there is no data - like weekends, or a week of missing data. This was first asked for years ago.

3. When rewinding, it would be really useful if disabled strategies could be re-added as well as enabled one.


Technical
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1. The NT price database is file based. For proper testing this means you may end up with a lot of files in your db directory, which is inefficient and a nightmare to backup. I, for example, have 361,000 files in my db directory, and I only have one and a half years of tick data.

2. Multi-threading and compiling. I have to delete non-current strategies regularly and store them somewhere else just because of how long it takes to compile if you have a lot of strategies. Compiling, the overuse of running Initialize() and functions of that nature tend to lock up the whole of Ninja, for many seconds. I'm not sure how Ninja is multithreaded, or whether this behaviour is expected, but every day I probably have Ninja Not Responding for a total of a few minutes.

3. Strategy monitoring and problems. Strategies can fail. When they do, the enabled check may be cleared, it may not. You don't know. There'll be a message that a strategy has failed, but it just gives the strategy id, which is really no use to anyone. Instrument and strategy name would be a really good start.

If you read all this, well done, and thanks.

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not sure if this has been covered...

a desktop where the chart windows are inside like TS or CQG...and can have a couple desktops

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not sure if this has been covered...

a desktop where the chart windows are inside like TS or CQG...and can have a couple desktops

I have previously requested this option as well. But after having used both types of desktops, I actually prefer NT's model. The other way, when you click on one chart to bring it in focus, the whole trading desktop is brought to the front focus, and anything else (web browser, etc.) will be put behind. NT's way, I can click on any one of my charts and only that chart is brought to the front, and everything else stays as-is. However, the best would be for NT to provide the option either way I suppose.

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In one of the futures.io (formerly BMT) webinars, Ray already confirmed NT is moving to a "tabbed" workspace environment. Your guess is as good as mine as to what the entails, but at least it's a general idea.

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Instead of the all or none currently implemented... I'd like to be able to pick and choose which instruments I'm watching that actually record market replay data.. I'd like to record only those instruments that are not available for downloading, like bonds or even the tick, but don't want to waist resources on those that ninja already provides.. A simple check box in the instrument editor would be nice..


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Hello Traders,

I am not sure, is this the first time or not, a trader wrote this: I wish a journal, which is connected to every trade. For writing a comment/information to each trade I make. This journal, we habe in NT7, is like an daily log, and that is not the same.

Thanks a lot!

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Market profile & volume profile & footprint.

It's becoming main stream.

However, I assume there'll be some problems btwn NT and 3rd party vendors who developed these profile functions.

For this reason, I doubt NT will ever make these profile type charting native (just my opinion)

I don't know what's in the contract between them but NT made a bad move when it comes to profile and delta stuff.

The way I see it,,,,NT makes "THEM" rich unless they get heavy cut off of sales from these vendors (I doubt this).

Why?

Because most of these products from 3rd party vendors can work on the free version of NT.

If you want to own both NT and these products from 3rd party,,,,now it's not competitive in pricing.

What others think?

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Market profile and Footprint charts are both patented (by CME and Market Delta respectively). That can cause some issues (like the user has to pay additional fees if he wants to use the Static SuperDom).



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Market profile & volume profile & footprint.

It's becoming main stream.

However, I assume there'll be some problems btwn NT and 3rd party vendors who developed these profile functions.

For this reason, I doubt NT will ever make these profile type charting native (just my opinion)

I don't know what's in the contract between them but NT made a bad move when it comes to profile and delta stuff.

The way I see it,,,,NT makes "THEM" rich unless they get heavy cut off of sales from these vendors (I doubt this).

Why?

Because most of these products from 3rd party vendors can work on the free version of NT.

If you want to own both NT and these products from 3rd party,,,,now it's not competitive in pricing.

What others think?


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Market profile and Footprint charts are both patented (by CME and Market Delta respectively). That can cause some issues (like the user has to pay additional fees if he wants to use the Static SuperDom).

I know they are but it's not like NT's the first one trying to get these charts going,,,if they do.

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Market profile and Footprint charts are both patented (by CME and Market Delta respectively). That can cause some issues (like the user has to pay additional fees if he wants to use the Static SuperDom).

The name is what you can't use, not the concept. So, call it a "Profile Chart" and a "volume ladder" like most do and you don't have to pay fees; it's that simple.

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My main NT8 wishlist item:

- instead of far away and extremely infrequent major upgrades, do smaller and incremental ones, much more frequently

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Everything else, like being able to drag indicators, is meaningless IMO.

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The name is what you can't use, not the concept. So, call it a "Profile Chart" and a "volume ladder" like most do and you don't have to pay fees; it's that simple.

@josh,

Not exactly true, with patents there are claims. It is these claims that are protected from implementation without licensing agreements. We would need to see the actual Patent. Sometimes it is listed as Patent Pending which doesn't mean one will be awarded but is usually a business tactic to scare way competition by the possibility of infringement. (Some companies file for Patents, which they know they will never get, just to mark the product as Patent pending).

Names tend to be Trade Marked, but you need proper filing and marking of your TM to "defend" it from improper use. Copywrite tends to protect the actual work, and close derivations of such work (software is a little different in it is usually the work itself that cannot be copied without permission from the copywrite holder).

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@josh,

Not exactly true, with patents there are claims. It is these claims that are protected from implementation without licensing agreements. We would need to see the actual Patent. Sometimes it is listed as Patent Pending which doesn't mean one will be awarded but is usually a business tactic to scare way competition by the possibility of infringement. (Some companies file for Patents, which they know they will never get, just to mark the product as Patent pending).

Names tend to be Trade Marked, but you need proper filing and marking of your TM to "defend" it from improper use. Copywrite tends to protect the actual work, and close derivations of such work (software is a little different in it is usually the work itself that cannot be copied without permission from the copywrite holder).

Are you an attorney njamc!?

Market profile has been around since the 80s, I think the word was registered with CBOT. I think there is a fee today, however Sierra charts calls it volume profile and it's not expensive. T4 has a big fee for using market profile.

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Are you an attorney njamc!?

Market profile has been around since the 80s, I think the word was registered with CBOT. I think there is a fee today, however Sierra charts calls it volume profile and it's not expensive. T4 has a big fee for using market profile.

IP is something I deal with on a daily bases, I work with various IP attorney's throughout my day.

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