Does anyone esle find Ninja problematic for optimizing strategies? - NinjaTrader | futures io social day trading
futures io futures trading


Does anyone esle find Ninja problematic for optimizing strategies?
Updated: Views / Replies:1,551 / 3
Created: by rsi77 Attachments:0

Welcome to futures io.

(If you already have an account, login at the top of the page)

futures io is the largest futures trading community on the planet, with over 90,000 members. At futures io, our goal has always been and always will be to create a friendly, positive, forward-thinking community where members can openly share and discuss everything the world of trading has to offer. The community is one of the friendliest you will find on any subject, with members going out of their way to help others. Some of the primary differences between futures io and other trading sites revolve around the standards of our community. Those standards include a code of conduct for our members, as well as extremely high standards that govern which partners we do business with, and which products or services we recommend to our members.

At futures io, our focus is on quality education. No hype, gimmicks, or secret sauce. The truth is: trading is hard. To succeed, you need to surround yourself with the right support system, educational content, and trading mentors Ė all of which you can find on futures io, utilizing our social trading environment.

With futures io, you can find honest trading reviews on brokers, trading rooms, indicator packages, trading strategies, and much more. Our trading review process is highly moderated to ensure that only genuine users are allowed, so you donít need to worry about fake reviews.

We are fundamentally different than most other trading sites:
  • We are here to help. Just let us know what you need.
  • We work extremely hard to keep things positive in our community.
  • We do not tolerate rude behavior, trolling, or vendors advertising in posts.
  • We firmly believe in and encourage sharing. The holy grail is within you, we can help you find it.
  • We expect our members to participate and become a part of the community. Help yourself by helping others.

You'll need to register in order to view the content of the threads and start contributing to our community.  It's free and simple.

-- Big Mike, Site Administrator

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 

Does anyone esle find Ninja problematic for optimizing strategies?

  #1 (permalink)
Elite Member
Chicago
 
Futures Experience: Intermediate
Platform: Ninja Trader & TradeStation
Broker/Data: Amp Futures/Zen-Fire
Favorite Futures: ES
 
Posts: 56 since Jun 2009
Thanks: 17 given, 48 received

Does anyone esle find Ninja problematic for optimizing strategies?

I was a long-time user of Trade Station and became fairly proficient at coding "Easy" language. I switched to Ninja because I liked the look of their charts and I was frustrated with TradeStation's way of back testing, where a touch at a price counted as a definite fill. This is very unrealistic for a scalping strategy.

Anyway I've finally gotten fairly decent at programming strategies in Ninja, but I find that Ninja hangs up very easily if I'm back testing over more than 2 or 3 weeks. TradeStation was much more stable in this regard IMO.

Anybody have similar experience? Is there a way to improve Ninja's performance?

rsi77

Reply With Quote
 
  #2 (permalink)
Administrator: Retired Backtester
 Vendor: speedytradingservers.com 
Rennes France
 
Futures Experience: Advanced
Platform: NinjaTrader
Broker/Data: IB/Kinetick
Favorite Futures: Futures
 
sam028's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,366 since Jun 2009
Thanks: 3,573 given, 3,982 received

2 or 3 weeks, but with which time frame, how many bars ?
I've backtested some strategies with more than 1.000k without stability issues (it's just quite long ).

Reply With Quote
 
  #3 (permalink)
Site Administrator
Manta, Ecuador
 
Futures Experience: Advanced
Platform: My own custom solution
Favorite Futures: E-mini ES S&P 500
 
Big Mike's Avatar
 
Posts: 46,240 since Jun 2009
Thanks: 29,352 given, 83,230 received



rsi77 View Post
I was a long-time user of Trade Station and became fairly proficient at coding "Easy" language. I switched to Ninja because I liked the look of their charts and I was frustrated with TradeStation's way of back testing, where a touch at a price counted as a definite fill. This is very unrealistic for a scalping strategy.

Anyway I've finally gotten fairly decent at programming strategies in Ninja, but I find that Ninja hangs up very easily if I'm back testing over more than 2 or 3 weeks. TradeStation was much more stable in this regard IMO.

Anybody have similar experience? Is there a way to improve Ninja's performance?

rsi77

rsi77,

If you are using anything other than minute data, then almost always the issue is the .NET memory limits of Ninja 6.5. There is a hack (here) but won't work for most people due to the complexity.

You'll probably just need to wait for NT7 if this is what you're seeing. You can know for sure by checking taskmgr and seeing if it is exceeding about 1.3-1.5GB. If so, it's the memory cap issue.

You also need to keep very close eyes on the Log tab inside control panel.

Mike

Reply With Quote
 
  #4 (permalink)
Elite Member
Chicago
 
Futures Experience: Intermediate
Platform: Ninja Trader & TradeStation
Broker/Data: Amp Futures/Zen-Fire
Favorite Futures: ES
 
Posts: 56 since Jun 2009
Thanks: 17 given, 48 received

Yep, I use tick and volume charts for most of my testing. Josh at Ninja also said the NT 7.0 has better memory handling capability than the present version and that this should help with the choking I so often experience. I would use your hack but am not running XP64. Thanks for the info anyway. Oh well. I hope 7 is out soon.

Reply With Quote

Reply



futures io > > > > Does anyone esle find Ninja problematic for optimizing strategies?

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search



Upcoming Webinars and Events (4:30PM ET unless noted)

Jigsaw Trading: TBA

Elite only

FuturesTrader71: TBA

Elite only

NinjaTrader: TBA

Jan 18

RandBots: TBA

Jan 23

GFF Brokers & CME Group: Futures & Bitcoin

Elite only

Adam Grimes: TBA

Elite only

Ran Aroussi: TBA

Elite only
     

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Anyone have any hints for optimizing C# code? ZTR NinjaTrader Programming 111 December 24th, 2015 04:13 PM
Global Variables and Strategies in Ninja 6.5 TonyA NinjaTrader Programming 3 November 6th, 2010 08:50 AM
Hello , I;m trying to find a 3 level zz indicator for Ninja dchappy NinjaTrader 4 October 15th, 2010 05:03 AM
does anyone find ninja demo vastly innacurate anniebee321 Traders Hideout 11 September 9th, 2010 11:50 PM
Experience Trading LIVE automated Strategies with Ninja ??? gtichauer The Elite Circle 6 April 28th, 2010 06:56 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:04 AM.

Copyright © 2017 by futures io, s.a., Av Ricardo J. Alfaro, Century Tower, Panama, +507 833-9432, info@futures.io
All information is for educational use only and is not investment advice.
There is a substantial risk of loss in trading commodity futures, stocks, options and foreign exchange products. Past performance is not indicative of future results.
no new posts
Page generated 2017-12-14 in 0.13 seconds with 19 queries on phoenix via your IP 54.221.76.68