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Started:November 23rd, 2009 (11:23 AM) by dorschden Views / Replies:392,600 / 1,346
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Old September 26th, 2012, 12:50 AM   #541 (permalink)
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I downloaded and installed the new version of PriceActionPro and the associated Market analyzer template. My understanding of this duo is that the MA will reflect the same results as the associated chart.

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I don't think that is the case. The MA is independent, I run it without any charts, it simply calls on the indicator to get the data to display. The difference must be due to how price data is used. On a fresh start up one should get similar results.

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Old September 26th, 2012, 12:59 AM   #542 (permalink)
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@Cheech,

I don't think that is the case. The MA is independent, I run it without any charts, it simply calls on the indicator to get the data to display. The difference must be due to how price data is used. On a fresh start up one should get similar results.

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Thank you for your response. I realize that they are independent but I would expect that they be reasonably in sync.As I write this it is happening to me now and I just started NT. Chart has ABC signal, MA does not. See below

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Old September 26th, 2012, 07:46 AM   #543 (permalink)
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@Cheech,

I don't think that is the case. The MA is independent, I run it without any charts, it simply calls on the indicator to get the data to display. The difference must be due to how price data is used. On a fresh start up one should get similar results.

Cheers!

In this post at a much later time I had an ABC patter appear on both my 3 and 5 bar MedianRenko chart and the signal did not appear in MA. The capture below is for the 3 Bar chart and MA setup. I changed the MA setting to use the 5bar but MA still did not detect the ABC signal. I hit F5 on both the chart and the MA under the premise that it would re-sync the chart and MA to the same price data as per @aligator 's post, but with no effect. Not sure why this isn't working for me.

I've watched this for the last .5 housr, the ABC patterns are still on the 3 & 5 Renko charts but no MA signal has appeared.

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Old September 26th, 2012, 08:25 AM   #544 (permalink)
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What exactly does repainting mean as pertaining to the developing swing volume feature?

@syxforex, because we don't know whether the current bar belongs to the current swing or to the next one we can't paint the swing volume in this moment for sure. And when the bar volume belongs to the next swing the indicator is repainting. But with the VHighCurrent and VLowCurrent plots you see in every bar to what the values will be repainting.



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My understanding of this duo is that the MA will reflect the same results as the associated chart. I've set all of the PriceAction... indicators (all 4) in the MA to the same value as the chart (MedianRenko size 5) and the ABC Patter to Long_And_Short and am getting results that I didn't expect.
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Can anyone shed some light on this for me?

@Cheech, the values should be perfectly in sync. And as you see in the screenshot they are on my end. I tested this on Daily, Minute, Tick, Volume and I believe on Range charts as well and they all line up. I don't have MedianRenko but it should work with this bar type as well.


Do you have all settings identical on the chart and in the MA? CalculateOnBarClose, Swing size, Swing type, same time frame, Visualize swings -> Retracement max/min & Entry retracement? Did you tried it on minute charts?

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Old September 26th, 2012, 09:28 AM   #545 (permalink)
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Is it possible to export the swing high low info (or any indicator data in general) into a excel sheet? If so could someone point me in the right direction?

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Old September 26th, 2012, 10:05 AM   #546 (permalink)
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@Cheech, the values should be perfectly in sync. And as you see in the screenshot they are on my end. I tested this on Daily, Minute, Tick, Volume and I believe on Range charts as well and they all line up. I don't have MedianRenko but it should work with this bar type as well.


Do you have all settings identical on the chart and in the MA? CalculateOnBarClose, Swing size, Swing type, same time frame, Visualize swings -> Retracement max/min & Entry retracement? Did you tried it on minute charts?

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@dorschden

I did not try this on minute charts. Just a few minutes ago I did experience a situation where both the MA and chart had the ABC signal so there are situations where they are in sync. I checked most of the setting and they were the same on both. However, in the MA under the indicators section there is a setting for DT/DB strength (set to 15) that is not in the chart indicator. I downloaded both of these from your latest post (and noted the size difference in the indicator from the previous version) so I am reasonably sure that at least I downloaded a different version then I previously had. Could this be the problem?

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Old September 26th, 2012, 10:13 AM   #547 (permalink)
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@dorschden

I did not try this on minute charts. Just a few minutes ago I did experience a situation where both the MA and chart had the ABC signal so there are situations where they are in sync. I checked most of the setting and they were the same on both. However, in the MA under the indicators section there is a setting for DT/DB strength (set to 15) that is not in the chart indicator. I downloaded both of these from your latest post (and noted the size difference in the indicator from the previous version) so I am reasonably sure that at least I downloaded a different version then I previously had. Could this be the problem?

@Cheech,

I checked the charts and ma. for me they are both in sync. no problem.

also the indicator has a setting for dt/db as well.

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Old September 26th, 2012, 10:23 AM   #548 (permalink)
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@Cheech,

I checked the charts and ma. for me they are both in sync. no problem.

also the indicator has a setting for dt/db as well.


@Silvester17, @dorschden

I apologize, I was not at the top of the indicators window. I do have the DT/DB strength setting, and they are the same. I will recheck all of the settings in the indicators and MA and try it on time charts before posting again.

Thank you both for your assistance.


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Old September 26th, 2012, 11:03 AM   #549 (permalink)
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@Cheech,

I checked the charts and ma. for me they are both in sync. no problem.

also the indicator has a setting for dt/db as well.

@dorschden, @Silvester17

Well this is interesting. Before checking all of the other setting I tried altering nothing other than the chart type in MA. It seems that when the MA is set to MedianRenko it misses some of the signals regardless of whether the chart type is Better or MedianRenko. In other words, I could make the MA ABC signal appear or disappear by only changing from MedianRenko (it disappears) to BetterRenko (it appears). This happens with the chart type set to either of the two styles.

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Old September 26th, 2012, 05:26 PM   #550 (permalink)
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Thanks again Dorschden,

I've just updated my PAS PRO indicator. I do not see the developing swing volume feature in the indicator setup properties for display in a secondary panel. How do I activate this feature?

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really nice update dorschden! i like the way youve made it so you can display time in a few diff ways. i was wondering though how do you get it to show the length of time of the swing and not the time that the swing was completed? thinking im missing something here..


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