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Does anyone know of a hidden divergence indicator?

Or, what the best form is off of which indicator etc.. Just curious on thoughts.


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Does anyone know of a hidden divergence indicator?

Or, what the best form is off of which indicator etc.. Just curious on thoughts.



My 1st question to you is

Do you know what a hidden divergence is ?

2nd

I dont thing there is such a thing but I would invite you to follow my thread "My 6E trading strategy" located here on futures.io (formerly BMT) where the hidden divergence is explained in great detail and is an integral part of my trading method





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My 1st question to you is

Do you know what a hidden divergence is ?

2nd

I dont thing there is such a thing but I would invite you to follow my thread "My 6E trading strategy" located here on futures.io (formerly BMT) where the hidden divergence is explained in great detail and is an integral part of my trading method





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I didn't realize it was called 'hidden divergence' but yes, I definitely know what it is when I see it on my MACDBB indicator.

Yes, familiar w/ your technique.

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nice chart tiyf.. i dont remember you posting that in booths thread..

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Yup, spottable, but looking for an indicator to help out some. This is a good guide.. Thank you for sharing!

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Does anyone know of a hidden divergence indicator?

Or, what the best form is off of which indicator etc.. Just curious on thoughts.


In an uptrend:
"Regular Divergence" uses the High Pivots for trend lines. We have Higher Highs in Price but lower highs in the Indicator. With Regular Divergence we trust the Indicator for the Direction of future price action. The Indicator is telling us that the Trend may be over.

"Hidden Divergence (or Reverse Divergence) uses the low Pivots for trend lines. We have Higher Lows in price and lower lows in the Indicator. Reverse Divergence is the opposite; we trust Price and not the Inciator for the Direction of future price action. The Indicator is saying the Trend is over and Price is saying the Trend will continue. Hidden Divergence is more reliable than Regular Divergence because it's signal is with the Trend.

In a downtrend: Same thing but upside down.

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Does anyone know of a hidden divergence indicator?

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Check out Divergence Pro from Felton Trading www.feltontrading.com

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Does anyone know of a hidden divergence indicator?

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Hi bluemele. I just posted a hidden divergence detector for ninja in the Elite free section. It's a first version so probably still some bugs.



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Hi bluemele. I just posted a hidden divergence detector for ninja in the Elite free section. It's a first version so probably still some bugs.



W.

Looks promising judging from the screenshot. Have you used the DLL for convenience or to protect your work? In the first case, can you comment on how you coded it? That way I can perhaps convert it to MultiCharts, with full credit to you of course.

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Looks promising judging from the screenshot. Have you used the DLL for convenience or to protect your work? In the first case, can you comment on how you coded it? That way I can perhaps convert it to MultiCharts, with full credit to you of course.

Regards,

Hi Jura,

I have no intention of selling it... just want to improve it with help of traders. It's a DLL since I saw some code going out of futures.io (formerly BMT) and being sold...

I tried few ways, with complicated and less complicated indicators like price action swing etc. I believe the easiest way is to simply compute pivots of price and indicator. when the divergence happen around the same bar check for price pivot making a new HL and indicator making new LL. If so it's a hidden divergence for long signal. (LH/HH for short).

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Hi Jura,

I have no intention of selling it... just want to improve it with help of traders. It's a DLL since I saw some code going out of futures.io (formerly BMT) and being sold...

I tried few ways, with complicated and less complicated indicators like price action swing etc. I believe the easiest way is to simply compute pivots of price and indicator. when the divergence happen around the same bar check for price pivot making a new HL and indicator making new LL. If so it's a hidden divergence for long signal. (LH/HH for short).

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Hi wwwingman

Is it possible to add more indicators to the list (list being RSI, CCI etc) i.e. mave MACD, MACDBB etc

thanks for the great indicator!!

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Hi wwwingman

Is it possible to add more indicators to the list (list being RSI, CCI etc) i.e. mave MACD, MACDBB etc

thanks for the great indicator!!

Hi tellytub,

I have not found a dynamic way to add indicators (so the user can add or set as input his own indicator).

This means I have to program it.

One other thing is that for a lot of indicators, I am not sure what am I supposed to compare the divergence to. This may seem stupid but people tend to use indicators differently. For, exemple, a "simple" stochastics have few indicators in it (D/K/MA..) and people tend to use all of them or some of them for divergence.
This ihy I decided to add only indicators with 1 parameter, the period.

Next version the indicator will be available with source code. So people will be able to play around with it and add whatever they want.

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You guys probably don't need it, but in the past I found a nice article about hidden divergence:
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Hi tellytub,

I have not found a dynamic way to add indicators (so the user can add or set as input his own indicator).

This means I have to program it.

One other thing is that for a lot of indicators, I am not sure what am I supposed to compare the divergence to. This may seem stupid but people tend to use indicators differently. For, exemple, a "simple" stochastics have few indicators in it (D/K/MA..) and people tend to use all of them or some of them for divergence.
This ihy I decided to add only indicators with 1 parameter, the period.

Next version the indicator will be available with source code. So people will be able to play around with it and add whatever they want.

W.

Thanks very kind of you, I just hope people here dont sell all your hard work, this really annoys me BIG TIME!

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Hi tellytub,

I have not found a dynamic way to add indicators (so the user can add or set as input his own indicator).

This means I have to program it.

One other thing is that for a lot of indicators, I am not sure what am I supposed to compare the divergence to. This may seem stupid but people tend to use indicators differently. For, exemple, a "simple" stochastics have few indicators in it (D/K/MA..) and people tend to use all of them or some of them for divergence.
This ihy I decided to add only indicators with 1 parameter, the period.

Next version the indicator will be available with source code. So people will be able to play around with it and add whatever they want.

W.

Excellent work Wingman. FisherTransform (NT7 default) is a real simple oscillator, responsive, and yet greatly unappreciated indicator to add to your Divergence code. The pivot points form sharp and less noisy. Please give it your consideration.

Thanks a bunch!

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i thought DLL's were illegal on futures.io (formerly BMT)? :-) but i guess Feltontrading opened the door for dlls on futures.io (formerly BMT) ... just a suggestion.... it is a bit challenging not being able to see the code as it would be great to try and port it over to a few other platforms... like W59 or Multicharts or to develop it a bit further on ninja adding other things such as MACD/Fsiher etc ... ... but either way thanks for posting the indicator it really is a nice piece of work!!!

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here would be a great addition to your divergence indicator if you end up doing a version 3 --- this is the adaptive CCI by Winfrey --- purty good too :-) adaptive CCI

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What would be cool is to enable it to use any indicator... That would probably be a bit dynamic but cool.

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What would be cool is to enable it to use any indicator... That would probably be a bit dynamic but cool.

bluemele, I don't how to do that with Ninja. tried it but had no success and no body told me of a way to do that.

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i thought DLL's were illegal on futures.io (formerly BMT)? :-) but i guess Feltontrading opened the door for dlls on futures.io (formerly BMT) ... just a suggestion.... it is a bit challenging not being able to see the code as it would be great to try and port it over to a few other platforms... like W59 or Multicharts or to develop it a bit further on ninja adding other things such as MACD/Fsiher etc ... ... but either way thanks for posting the indicator it really is a nice piece of work!!!

No, not Felton. I simply saw indicators here being sold elsewhere.

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hi Wingman,
just downloaded your indicator and playing around with it. may I please ask you to add MACD to your indicator, or share the source code. Many thanks in advance

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8 Indicator Input, Regular and Hidden, Single and Double, Divergence Spotter Indicator

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If of any interest, I've uploaded a new version of the divergence indicator ECIDiv with source code.

Here : https://futures.io/download/vip_elite_circle/1002-download.html?view

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I know it shows V2 in futures.io (formerly BMT) download, but it is actually the last V3, I probably don't understand something in the upload indicator section.
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Hi wwwingman,

I want to add TSI to this divergence indicator. I added the following to it

swith (_indType)
{
case ECIIndicatorType.CCI _int = CCI(IndPeriod); break;



to this added the follwoing
case ECIIndicatorType.TSI; _int = TSI(5,13); break;

}

After addition, I'm getting compilation error.

Can you suggest on how to add TSI to this indicator.

Thank you,
Sudhir

EDIT: WAS ABLE TO RESOLVE IT. PLEASE IGNORE THIS REQUEST

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Hi wwwingman,

I want to add TSI to this divergence indicator. I added the following to it

Can you suggest on how to add TSI to this indicator.

Thank you,
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Here is a V4 draft.

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Here is a V4 draft.

Could you upload it in rapidshare?

Thanks!

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Could you upload it in rapidshare?

Thanks!

no. I believe it should stay in futures.io (formerly BMT) forum. otherwise, it simply means I will not share any other indicator source code.

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Hi Wldman,

This is a divergence indicator with CCI, Momentum , DoubleStochastics & RSI. I tried to add TSI to it and asked wwwingman's help.
You can see a picture of this indicator at :

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Hi Wldman,

This is a divergence indicator with CCI, Momentum , DoubleStochastics & RSI. I tried to add TSI to it and asked wwwingman's help.
You can see a picture of this indicator at :

Sudhir

BTW : final V4 version available in the download elite section. I've added few indicators many people asked (like MACD), so this is probably the most important version of the indicator.

I suppose the notification will be sent a little later.

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Folks I try to plot divergenze in Ninja and they are great.
Is there alo divergence indicator for multicharts, i don't find in section?
ALso indicaotr %B is there someothe that has for multicharts?

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Divergence indicator for multicharts

You are in the NinjaTrader section of the forum. Don't ask for MultiCharts stuff here.

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You are in the NinjaTrader section of the forum. Don't ask for MultiCharts stuff here.
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I am sorry, excuse me for misunderstanding.
Is it possible include in this indicator for ninjatrader the %B bollinger to discover divergence please?

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