Your description is somewhat confusing, for example you do not mention the initial stop and also you cannot move your trailing stop to 98.10, when price reaches 98.10, but maybe to 98.05.

So let us first organize your strategy. I need to make some assumptions.


Assumptions

(1) You want to enter a position of two contracts (you mention a second contract) via a limit or a market order.

(2) You want to set an initial stop loss (although you don't mention it). For simplicity reasons, the initial stop shall be the same for both contracts. We will use an initial stop of 5 ticks.

(3) You want to set a target of 5 ticks for the first contract.

(4) You want to trail the stop for your second contract to breakeven + 1 tick, once the first target of 5 ticks is reached.

(5) When ever price moves in your favor more than 5 ticks, you want to trail the stop for the second contract by 5 ticks. For example, if price moves to 98.10, your stop will be moved to 98.05. If price moves to 98.15, you stop will be moved to 98.10, and so on.

Now that we have a description of what is intended, we can use the ATM manangement.


Implementation

Now you can use the SuperDOM to define your ATM strategy, First enter the strategy parameters:

Targets: 2 Target (different for first and second contract)
Qty: : 1 and 1 (1 contract each)
Stop loss: 5 ticks and 5 ticks (identical for both contracts)
Profit target: 5 ticks and 0 ticks (0 ticks means that you do not have an explicit target for the second contract)
Stop strategy: <None> and <Custom> (the first contract does not require a stop strategy, as you just have a target and a stop)

The settings can be seen in screenshot 1.

If you set the stop strategy to custom, another menu will open and you can enter the details of your trailing stop strategy for your second contract.

For the breakeven stop, we enter

profit trigger: ticks (when price has moved 5 ticks in your favor.....)
plus: 1 (the stop is trailed to breakeven + 1 tick)

For the Auto trail, we enter:

stop loss: 5 ticks (this is the trailing amount, when price reaches X, the stop will be set at X - 5 ticks)
frequency: 5 ticks (how often the trailing stop is adjusted, if you adjust it with every ticks you will pay a lot of order fees)
profit trigger: 10 (this is the first target that activates your trailing stop)

The custom settings can be seen in screenshot 2:

Note that at +5 ticks the breakeven stop is activated for the second contract. At +10 ticks the trailing stop is activated and will set the first stop at + 5 ticks.


Save your ATM strategy

Once the custom settings have been entered you select OK and can then save your strategy by right clicking on the ATM Strategy field -> Manage ATM Strategy Templates ....

hello, i was looking to do do a similar auto trail, but with 1 contract.when i order, i use a 8 tick stop loss.when price goes to +5 ticks, i want the trailing stop to start at break even,or zero.when price goes to +10, i want the stop to go to +5.when price goes to +15, i want the stop at +10.so , basically, once price goes to +5 ticks, i want to trail 5 ticks behind it incrementally

It is not easy to find out, where your sentences start and where they end, this makes it possible to interpret them in two ways. Correct spelling would really help here. As I have understood it:

DOM settings:

1 Target / Stop loss: 8 ticks / Profit target: 0 ticks (you don't have a profit target)/ Stop strategy: <Custom>

Stop Strategy Settings:

Auto breakeven:
Proft trigger: 5 ticks / Plus 0

Auto trail:
Stop loss: 5 ticks / Frequency 5 ticks / Profit trigger 10 ticks

Meaning is that stop loss is set to break even, when position is 5 ticks in profit. Trailing stop is activated, when position reaches 10 ticks profits, trailing distance is 5 ticks, and the trailing frequency is every 5 ticks.

that sounds right fat tails.sorry for the lousy typing, its a bad habit.i think what you typed was correct.A hard stop loss of 8 ticks.When price goes to plus 5, the strategy kicks in, and my stop goes to breakeven.when price goes to plus 10, the profit stop goes to plus 5.when price goes to plus 15, the profit stop goes to plus 10. The profit stop bumps up 5 ticks every time price goes another plus 5

Your description is somewhat confusing, for example you do not mention the initial stop and also you cannot move your trailing stop to 98.10, when price reaches 98.10, but maybe to 98.05.

So let us first organize your strategy. I need to make some assumptions.


Assumptions

(1) You want to enter a position of two contracts (you mention a second contract) via a limit or a market order.

(2) You want to set an initial stop loss (although you don't mention it). For simplicity reasons, the initial stop shall be the same for both contracts. We will use an initial stop of 5 ticks.

(3) You want to set a target of 5 ticks for the first contract.

(4) You want to trail the stop for your second contract to breakeven + 1 tick, once the first target of 5 ticks is reached.

(5) When ever price moves in your favor more than 5 ticks, you want to trail the stop for the second contract by 5 ticks. For example, if price moves to 98.10, your stop will be moved to 98.05. If price moves to 98.15, you stop will be moved to 98.10, and so on.

Now that we have a description of what is intended, we can use the ATM manangement.


Implementation

Now you can use the SuperDOM to define your ATM strategy, First enter the strategy parameters:

Targets: 2 Target (different for first and second contract)
Qty: : 1 and 1 (1 contract each)
Stop loss: 5 ticks and 5 ticks (identical for both contracts)
Profit target: 5 ticks and 0 ticks (0 ticks means that you do not have an explicit target for the second contract)
Stop strategy: <None> and <Custom> (the first contract does not require a stop strategy, as you just have a target and a stop)

The settings can be seen in screenshot 1.

If you set the stop strategy to custom, another menu will open and you can enter the details of your trailing stop strategy for your second contract.

For the breakeven stop, we enter

profit trigger: ticks (when price has moved 5 ticks in your favor.....)
plus: 1 (the stop is trailed to breakeven + 1 tick)

For the Auto trail, we enter:

stop loss: 5 ticks (this is the trailing amount, when price reaches X, the stop will be set at X - 5 ticks)
frequency: 5 ticks (how often the trailing stop is adjusted, if you adjust it with every ticks you will pay a lot of order fees)
profit trigger: 10 (this is the first target that activates your trailing stop)

The custom settings can be seen in screenshot 2:

Note that at +5 ticks the breakeven stop is activated for the second contract. At +10 ticks the trailing stop is activated and will set the first stop at + 5 ticks.


Save your ATM strategy

Once the custom settings have been entered you select OK and can then save your strategy by right clicking on the ATM Strategy field -> Manage ATM Strategy Templates ....

Hello Fat Tails,

I was reading your previous posts and trying to adapt it to my strategies, and I couldn't really do it. Could you help me with that please?

I’ll use 3 contracts.

Stop loss: 8/8/8
Profit Targets: 1st target 6ticks
2nd and 3rd, trailin stop

Now, the stop strategies:

The 1st contract I’ll take out with the 6 ticks and the 8 tick stop, so no stop strategies on this one.

2nd contract and 3rd :

Break Even + 1 when it buys the 1st contract on 6 ticks
Break Even +5 when it reaches 10 ticks on profit, but then the frequency on 1 tick, like when it goes to 11 ticks on my favor, the stop will move one tick, like doing kind of a “squeeze”.

I’ll tried to do it, but couldn’t, something goes wrong on the middle of the process.

Thank you a lot,
Felix.