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Collective2 alternative for NinjaTrader?

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If your clients number is not big, you could have them on your same broker and ask the broker for LAMM or PAMM multi account management.

There is also an Italian company which has developed a suite called WideTrader, its function is to connect signal vendors with clients, without the huge fees taken by a third party like collective2.

WideTrader has very good performance, I know it works well with Interactive Brokers. Signals can be received from Tradestation, WealthLab, Fibonacci Trader, ... They contacted me asking to develop the bridge from Ninja Trader, but I declined because I had no time. You could develop the bridge, and get paid for this, if this interest you. Or maybe they found someone else, I don't know but I can contact them.

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so your saying that you can sim trade it, and C2 will treat the trade as the real thing?

Thats pretty lame. Well the thing that i mentioned with velocity(leader board) can't be a sim account from what my broker told me, so im guessing that would be a better option then for transparency....

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If your signals are not automatic, you could also use strategy runner.

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@molecool, you don't have to manage people's account by your own, and if your subscribers are using NT too, there is something not so difficult to do.
Just modify your strategy to act like the good old client/server model:
- the strategy you run is taking trades, but also send orders to client strategies, which are on your subscribers NT workstation;
- the customers strategy just need to listen to your "server" strategy, usingt received orders.
It can be done with basic socket coding, or any other smarter way (WCF, ...).

Yes, I could probably write a socket protocol that does that. However, then I would effectively control other people's accounts DIRECTLY and my liability would shoot through the roof. This is not just about making something work 'technically' - it's about hooking into a secure/proven framework. We are talking about real life trading systems here and a bug/error/mistake could potentially expose me to a lawsuit. Yes, C2 takes that away but at a big price - I am looking for competing systems but it seems there is not much out there.

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