NT7 memory use & 32- / 64-bit - NinjaTrader Programming | futures io social day trading
futures io futures trading


NT7 memory use & 32- / 64-bit
Updated: Views / Replies:6,807 / 22
Created: by SARdynamite Attachments:0

Welcome to futures io.

(If you already have an account, login at the top of the page)

futures io is the largest futures trading community on the planet, with over 90,000 members. At futures io, our goal has always been and always will be to create a friendly, positive, forward-thinking community where members can openly share and discuss everything the world of trading has to offer. The community is one of the friendliest you will find on any subject, with members going out of their way to help others. Some of the primary differences between futures io and other trading sites revolve around the standards of our community. Those standards include a code of conduct for our members, as well as extremely high standards that govern which partners we do business with, and which products or services we recommend to our members.

At futures io, our focus is on quality education. No hype, gimmicks, or secret sauce. The truth is: trading is hard. To succeed, you need to surround yourself with the right support system, educational content, and trading mentors Ė all of which you can find on futures io, utilizing our social trading environment.

With futures io, you can find honest trading reviews on brokers, trading rooms, indicator packages, trading strategies, and much more. Our trading review process is highly moderated to ensure that only genuine users are allowed, so you donít need to worry about fake reviews.

We are fundamentally different than most other trading sites:
  • We are here to help. Just let us know what you need.
  • We work extremely hard to keep things positive in our community.
  • We do not tolerate rude behavior, trolling, or vendors advertising in posts.
  • We firmly believe in and encourage sharing. The holy grail is within you, we can help you find it.
  • We expect our members to participate and become a part of the community. Help yourself by helping others.

You'll need to register in order to view the content of the threads and start contributing to our community.  It's free and simple.

-- Big Mike, Site Administrator

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 

NT7 memory use & 32- / 64-bit

  #11 (permalink)
Elite Member
Belgium
 
Futures Experience: Advanced
Platform: SaxoTrader
Broker/Data: SaxoBank
Favorite Futures: ESTX
 
Posts: 290 since Dec 2009
Thanks: 242 given, 109 received

I will be using other sources of historical data. However, I did not know about dll mismatches and since I plan on protecting my codes with RemoteSoft for different people, that's bad news.

Thanks guys.

Reply With Quote
 
  #12 (permalink)
Elite Member
Near the BEuTiFULL Horse Shoe
 
Futures Experience: Beginner
Platform: NinjaTrader
Broker/Data: MBTrading Dukascopy ZenFire
Favorite Futures: $EURUSD when it is trending
 
Trader.Jon's Avatar
 
Posts: 500 since Jul 2009
Thanks: 401 given, 176 received


sam028 View Post
For ZF feed, which still 32-bit only, the idea is to:
- get the tick data using NT7 32-bit (a simple backtest)
- optimize the strategy using NT7 64-bit (it will use the data downloaded previously by the 32 bit version, no need to be connected then).
With the 64-bit version, and large backtests optimization, I saw NT7 64 using more than 7 Gb, and give some reliable results.

I agree with Sam, on recent optimizations I was concurrently running several Virtual Box VM(4 @ Win7 Pro 64bit guests) with NT7 64bit installed, each VM had 16gb ram 'installed' + 2 'processors'[ to allow 64bit VM's to run correctly]. I pegged out at 50+GB on the host, and all ran very smoothly @ 80+% host's cpu cores except for the one VM I goofed on the setup (only 1 processor assigned). I will be resetting all the VM(now 6 @ Win7 Enterprise 64bit + NT7b19 64bit) to 8gb to see if I can crash anything.

Reply With Quote
 
  #13 (permalink)
Elite Member
Santa Maria
 
Futures Experience: Advanced
Platform: NinjaTrader, ThinkOrSwim
Broker/Data: Mirus/Zen-Fire
Favorite Futures: ES
 
Posts: 295 since May 2010
Thanks: 101 given, 320 received



Trader.Jon View Post
...on recent optimizations I was concurrently running several Virtual Box VM(4 @ Win7 Pro 64bit guests) with NT7 64bit installed, each VM had 16gb ram 'installed'...

Interesting, how much real physical memory do you have on the host? Linux or windows host? Thanks

Reply With Quote
 
  #14 (permalink)
Elite Member
Near the BEuTiFULL Horse Shoe
 
Futures Experience: Beginner
Platform: NinjaTrader
Broker/Data: MBTrading Dukascopy ZenFire
Favorite Futures: $EURUSD when it is trending
 
Trader.Jon's Avatar
 
Posts: 500 since Jul 2009
Thanks: 401 given, 176 received


fluxsmith View Post
Interesting, how much real physical memory do you have on the host? Linux or windows host? Thanks

In reality, I dont have enough brain bandwith to use Linux, or am too busy with other priorities (take your pick) ... I grew up with TOS on Atari .. all GUI before Windoze ever released ... lol ..

Win7 x64 host OS .. I ran the box on XP x64 until Virtual Box came out with decent support for for Win7 ... for some reason it took some effort on their part to get shared folders working between host OS & guest OS

Tyan motherboard with 2@Opterons and 64gb DDR2 ECC ..not the fastest ram but it works. This is the real cruncher machine I got just to run VMs .. I was trying to get a support position with VMWare at one time, so I used it to self teach, but, as I said, Linux and I dont communicate very well at all, so now it runs NT7 and anything else I might find on my journey. Next step is Neural Nets, after I start making a living as a trader.

Jon

Reply With Quote
The following user says Thank You to Trader.Jon for this post:
 
  #15 (permalink)
Membership Revoked
British Columbia
 
Futures Experience: Advanced
Platform: NINJA
Broker/Data: ZEN
Favorite Futures: Crude
 
Posts: 1,091 since May 2010
Thanks: 192 given, 484 received

Can anybody tell me what is the maximum efficient memory usage for nt7. Taskmanager for windows 7 64 is currently showing a 3.2 gigabyte footprint for nt7.exe. It seem to be running a fine, a bit sticky, but not that bad. I'm wondering what the implications are for order transmission and live trading... don't really want to take anything down, using a lot of days to get the weekly and monthly pivots on the charts, is this problematic or is running full-tilt like this doable? Thanks techie folks...

Reply With Quote
 
  #16 (permalink)
Site Administrator
Manta, Ecuador
 
Futures Experience: Advanced
Platform: My own custom solution
Favorite Futures: E-mini ES S&P 500
 
Big Mike's Avatar
 
Posts: 46,238 since Jun 2009
Thanks: 29,350 given, 83,220 received


syxforex View Post
Can anybody tell me what is the maximum efficient memory usage for nt7. Taskmanager for windows 7 64 is currently showing a 3.2 gigabyte footprint for nt7.exe. It seem to be running a fine, a bit sticky, but not that bad. I'm wondering what the implications are for order transmission and live trading... don't really want to take anything down, using a lot of days to get the weekly and monthly pivots on the charts, is this problematic or is running full-tilt like this doable? Thanks techie folks...

Using NT7 x64 means there is no longer a memory limit. So it will simply depend on how much RAM you have in your system. There is no undesired behavior of order transmission, etc, based solely on memory consumption. They problem would come should your system have inadequate memory, and begin swapping to disk and then you'll have huge latency and delays.

Mike

Due to time constraints, please do not PM me if your question can be resolved or answered on the forum.

Need help?
1) Stop changing things. No new indicators, charts, or methods. Be consistent with what is in front of you first.
2) Start a journal and post to it daily with the trades you made to show your strengths and weaknesses.
3) Set goals for yourself to reach daily. Make them about how you trade, not how much money you make.
4) Accept responsibility for your actions. Stop looking elsewhere to explain away poor performance.
5) Where to start as a trader? Watch this webinar and read this thread for hundreds of questions and answers.
6)
Help using the forum? Watch this video to learn general tips on using the site.

If you want
to support our community, become an Elite Member.

Reply With Quote
The following user says Thank You to Big Mike for this post:
 
  #17 (permalink)
Membership Revoked
British Columbia
 
Futures Experience: Advanced
Platform: NINJA
Broker/Data: ZEN
Favorite Futures: Crude
 
Posts: 1,091 since May 2010
Thanks: 192 given, 484 received

Thanks Mike,

I have 12 gigs or so of memory but somewhere someways back I heard windows 7 can only use 4 gigs of it. Task manager shows I'm using up to 6 gigs. Does W7 have a limit as to how much of the memory it can use. All is ticking along well enough this morning, albeit..

Reply With Quote
 
  #18 (permalink)
Site Administrator
Manta, Ecuador
 
Futures Experience: Advanced
Platform: My own custom solution
Favorite Futures: E-mini ES S&P 500
 
Big Mike's Avatar
 
Posts: 46,238 since Jun 2009
Thanks: 29,350 given, 83,220 received


syxforex View Post
Thanks Mike,

I have 12 gigs or so of memory but somewhere someways back I heard windows 7 can only use 4 gigs of it. Task manager shows I'm using up to 6 gigs. Does W7 have a limit as to how much of the memory it can use. All is ticking along well enough this morning, albeit..

Are you using Windows 7 x64? If not, then you will be limited to 4GB of usable memory.

Memory Limits for Windows Releases

Is my PC running the 32-bit or 64-bit version of Windows?

Mike

Due to time constraints, please do not PM me if your question can be resolved or answered on the forum.

Need help?
1) Stop changing things. No new indicators, charts, or methods. Be consistent with what is in front of you first.
2) Start a journal and post to it daily with the trades you made to show your strengths and weaknesses.
3) Set goals for yourself to reach daily. Make them about how you trade, not how much money you make.
4) Accept responsibility for your actions. Stop looking elsewhere to explain away poor performance.
5) Where to start as a trader? Watch this webinar and read this thread for hundreds of questions and answers.
6)
Help using the forum? Watch this video to learn general tips on using the site.

If you want
to support our community, become an Elite Member.

Reply With Quote
 
  #19 (permalink)
Elite Member
Montreal, Quebec
 
Futures Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NinjaTrader
Broker/Data: Optimus Trading Group/Rithmic
Favorite Futures: CL
 
Posts: 69 since Oct 2009
Thanks: 252 given, 34 received

I'm going to get my new build up and running this week, i7-2600k, 16Gb of ddr3 ram, ssd hard drive, can't wait!
Am I going to be able to run Ninja 64 bit and connect to zenfire? Are all bugs gone now?

Thanks guys

Reply With Quote
 
  #20 (permalink)
Site Administrator
Manta, Ecuador
 
Futures Experience: Advanced
Platform: My own custom solution
Favorite Futures: E-mini ES S&P 500
 
Big Mike's Avatar
 
Posts: 46,238 since Jun 2009
Thanks: 29,350 given, 83,220 received



superpete View Post
I'm going to get my new build up and running this week, i7-2600k, 16Gb of ddr3 ram, ssd hard drive, can't wait!
Am I going to be able to run Ninja 64 bit and connect to zenfire? Are all bugs gone now?

Thanks guys

I believe the platform itself, and the Zen Fire 64-bit adapter, are considered "stable". Just keep in mind that if you have purchased any indicators from vendors and they sent them to you as obfuscated DLL's, they won't work. You can either trash them, or you can go back to vendor and ask for a x64 version of the DLL.

Running NT in 64-bit mode is really only necessary for backtesting. You could stick with the x86 version otherwise, there is no advantage to running x64 except for memory - and you don't need the extra memory unless you are backtesting.

Mike

Due to time constraints, please do not PM me if your question can be resolved or answered on the forum.

Need help?
1) Stop changing things. No new indicators, charts, or methods. Be consistent with what is in front of you first.
2) Start a journal and post to it daily with the trades you made to show your strengths and weaknesses.
3) Set goals for yourself to reach daily. Make them about how you trade, not how much money you make.
4) Accept responsibility for your actions. Stop looking elsewhere to explain away poor performance.
5) Where to start as a trader? Watch this webinar and read this thread for hundreds of questions and answers.
6)
Help using the forum? Watch this video to learn general tips on using the site.

If you want
to support our community, become an Elite Member.

Reply With Quote
The following 2 users say Thank You to Big Mike for this post:

Reply



futures io > > > > > NT7 memory use & 32- / 64-bit

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search



Upcoming Webinars and Events (4:30PM ET unless noted)

Linda Bradford Raschke: Reading The Tape

Elite only

Adam Grimes: TBA

Elite only

NinjaTrader: TBA

January

Ran Aroussi: TBA

Elite only
     

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
32-Bit Vs. 64-Bit plethora Tech Support 11 February 14th, 2011 04:52 PM
Any idea when Zen Fire will be 64 bit spx_tdr Reviews of Brokers and Data Feeds 14 December 3rd, 2010 06:47 AM
NT7 64-bit to 32-bit? benharrell Traders Hideout 3 November 13th, 2010 03:01 PM
Opinions anyone on Zen-Fire 64-bit using NT7b22? nanobiotech Reviews of Brokers and Data Feeds 10 October 18th, 2010 10:35 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:14 PM.

Copyright © 2017 by futures io, s.a., Av Ricardo J. Alfaro, Century Tower, Panama, +507 833-9432, info@futures.io
All information is for educational use only and is not investment advice.
There is a substantial risk of loss in trading commodity futures, stocks, options and foreign exchange products. Past performance is not indicative of future results.
no new posts
Page generated 2017-12-12 in 0.13 seconds with 19 queries on phoenix via your IP 54.163.210.170