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What C# development platform do you use?

I'm new to C# and NinjaScript. To get a better feel for how coders operating in this environment, I've got a few questions:

- how do you develop C# for ninjatrader?
ie totally within the nt platform, in an outside tool and then copy/paste?

- what other c# development platforms do you use?
I've played with #develop (SharpDevelop @ic#code)
From a professional programmers point of view Visual C#/.net is a career enhancing experience
From an open source point of view Eclipse is the bomb
I guess it's what your target environment is, but I'm wondering what others use

- other plug-ins or add-ons to the base platform you use
is there any add-ons for ninjatrader from a coding point of view?
if you use visual c# do you use the team product for code management

- are there any other strategy testing tools that work with ninja?
I was just looking at tradingblox.com, which is a self-contained system development/portfolio testing tool, and another tool like it (forgot name)

Thanks.


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The default ninjascript editor is painful.

I use visual studio + resharper (productivity/refactoring plugin made by jetbrains who also make IntelliJ which you might be familiar with since you mention eclipse)

Unfortunately you still have to compile within ninjaTrader but compiling one script in NT compiles them all so I normally keep another script which I am not editing open in NT and I recompile from there after I save my changes in visual studio. You don't want to have the same script open in both VS and NT because NT will not detect changes made by VS.

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i use sharp develop for c# on vista, and work in a box with visual express on xp. eclipse i use only for java ... i do not test c# plugins for eclipse. so i can not comment.

for fast script modification is script editor a great tool.

wh

i can only java, but c# is so similar, that i say thanx to microsoft.

http://ninjatraderindicators.blogspot.com/2009/06/ninjatrader-debugging-with-visual.html


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i use notepad for NT script editing actually. in another life i was a *nix sys admin and as a result love text editors.

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i use notepad for NT script editing actually. in another life i was a *nix sys admin and as a result love text editors.

Wouldn't an *nix sysadmin use Vim? (definitely not emacs) ; )

I use Vim every day for most of my text editing needs, but for programming c# or java it lacks a solid refactoring tool

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I use Visual Studio 2008 since that's what I use for my regular job.

BTW: you can get visual c# express here:
http://www.microsoft.com/express/vcsharp/

it's free, it's got a decent editor with code completion, and most importantly, it has a debugger that you can use to step through your scripts.

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"The Express versions of Visual Studio are not supported" according to the NT manual. Any idea what the limitations of 'express are with NT compared to the paid version?

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"The Express versions of Visual Studio are not supported" according to the NT manual. Any idea what the limitations of 'express are with NT compared to the paid version?

I have not tried it with NT specifically but I know that one of the limitations of the express edition is that the debugger is not as advanced as the full version.

I would guess that it may not be able to handle the remotesoft protector which uses some compiler tricks to hide the NT program code from being viewed with a reflection tool.

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"The Express versions of Visual Studio are not supported" according to the NT manual. Any idea what the limitations of 'express are with NT compared to the paid version?

oops. yes, sorry, express doesn't support JIT debugging

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Forgot to mention earlier that you can get the professional version of visual studio for free through microsoft dreamspark program if you are a student or university faculty or can get anyone with that qualification to sign up for you (requires university email address)

They also give you free versions of server 2008, server 2003 and some other development tools.

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