Doomed to Extinction by our stupidity - News and Current Events | futures trading

Go Back

> Futures Trading, News, Charts and Platforms > Traders Hideout > News and Current Events

Doomed to Extinction by our stupidity
Started:September 1st, 2012 (12:58 AM) by Zondor Views / Replies:265 / 1
Last Reply:September 1st, 2012 (08:56 AM) Attachments:0

Welcome to

Welcome, Guest!

This forum was established to help traders (especially futures traders) by openly sharing indicators, strategies, methods, trading journals and discussing the psychology of trading.

We are fundamentally different than most other trading forums:
  • We work extremely hard to keep things positive on our forums.
  • We do not tolerate rude behavior, trolling, or vendor advertising in posts.
  • We firmly believe in openness and encourage sharing. The holy grail is within you, it is not something tangible you can download.
  • We expect our members to participate and become a part of the community. Help yourself by helping others.

You'll need to register in order to view the content of the threads and start contributing to our community. It's free and simple, and we will never resell your private information.

-- Big Mike

Thread Tools Search this Thread

Doomed to Extinction by our stupidity

Old September 1st, 2012, 12:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
Elite Member
Portland Oregon, United States
Futures Experience: Beginner
Platform: NinjatraderŽ
Broker/Data: CQG, Kinetick
Favorite Futures: Gameplay KlownbineŽ Trading of Globex
Zondor's Avatar
Posts: 1,276 since Jul 2009
Thanks: 1,227 given, 2,442 received

Doomed to Extinction by our stupidity

Hope is for the lazy: The challenge of our dead world | Energy Bulletin


Simon Fraser University biologist Arne Mooers, a co-author on that study who specializes in biodiversity, says the odds are very high that the next global state change will be extremely disruptive to our civilizations: “In a nutshell, humans have not done anything really important to stave off the worst because the social structures for doing something just aren’t there. My colleagues who study climate-induced changes through the Earth’s history are more than pretty worried. In fact, some are terrified.” [Jeremy Hance, “Scientists: If We Don't Act Now We're Screwed,” Mongabay News, June 19, 2012.]

It would be easy to look at all this and conclude there is no hope. That would be easy because it’s the most rational assessment. If that seems harsh, well, life can be, and often is, harsh. As ecologists like to remind us, nature does not negotiate. Nature sets limits. For those who prefer sports metaphors, nature bats last.


To repeat one of those hard-to-bear truths: Nature doesn’t negotiate. Nature sets limits. Nature bats last. If we don’t want to be accused of weakness or laziness, we have to face not only the truth we can bear, but all of the truth, which is too much to ask us to bear. Here’s how Berry describes the unbearable truth in that same Sabbath poem:

Because we have not made our lives to fit
our places, the forests are ruined, the fields eroded,
the streams polluted, the mountains overturned.

Our lives do not fit our places. We are out of place. Modern high-energy/high-technology industrial life not only has desecrated the world, it has left us out of place, out of touch with ourselves and each other. Berry reminds us that place and identity are connected: “You can’t know who you are if you don’t know where you are.” Modern high-energy/high-technology industrial life disconnects us from where we are.

As much as I would like to ignore all this, I can’t go very long without being reminded of these realities. One day last month, as I was reading the day’s news and feeling one step closer to despair, I summed up that feeling in a note written quickly to some of my closest friends (on Facebook):

We treat women’s bodies like objects to be f###ed and men’s bodies like machines to be worked. We treat the whole world like a mine or a garbage dump. The economic system assumes you care only about yourself. The political system gives the most to the people who have the most. We clamor for any amusement or chemical that takes our minds off the horror. And then we wonder why things aren’t going well.

Reply With Quote

Old September 1st, 2012, 08:56 AM   #2 (permalink)
Elite Member
Visayan Islands, Philippines.
Futures Experience: Intermediate
Platform: Ninja
Broker/Data: IB, eSignal.
Favorite Futures: Futures
Posts: 23 since Jul 2010
Thanks: 133 given, 12 received

The dominant belief in the Western world is that we all live on an insignificant planet, in an insignificant part of a Galaxy, that is in an insignificant Universe, that is ultimately doomed to extinction. They believe that they are the descendants of apes, who ultimately have a common heritage with earthworms.

Their behavior is consistent with those beliefs.

The problem is not stupidity.


Reply With Quote

Reply > Futures Trading, News, Charts and Platforms > Traders Hideout > News and Current Events > Doomed to Extinction by our stupidity

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Upcoming Webinars and Events (4:30PM ET unless noted)

An Afternoon with FIO trader bobwest

Elite only

NinjaTrader 8: Programming Profitable Trading Edges w/Scott Hodson

Elite only

Anthony Drager: Executing on Intermarket Correlations & Order Flow, Part 2

Elite only

Adam Grimes: Five critically important keys to professional trading

Elite only

Machine Learning Concepts w/FIO member NJAMC

Elite only

MarketDelta Cloud Platform: Announcing new mobile features

Dec 1

NinjaTrader 8: Features and Enhancements

Dec 6

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ten Reasons Why Fracking is Doomed kbit News and Current Events 0 July 28th, 2012 11:51 AM
Joe Stiglitz: Global Economic System Is Doomed kbit News and Current Events 0 April 15th, 2012 06:59 PM
Greenspan: Why European Union Is Doomed to Fail kbit News and Current Events 0 October 26th, 2011 01:18 PM
Bill Gross Declares That The Economy Is Doomed kbit News and Current Events 0 October 15th, 2011 10:36 PM
Crisis Panel Chair: Politics May Have Doomed Lehman Bros. Quick Summary News and Current Events 0 September 1st, 2010 06:10 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:31 AM.

Copyright © 2016 by All information is for educational use only and is not investment advice.
There is a substantial risk of loss in trading commodity futures, stocks, options and foreign exchange products. Past performance is not indicative of future results.
no new posts

Page generated 2016-10-25 in 0.08 seconds with 19 queries on phoenix via your IP