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I think that it's worth pointing out that spending your own time mentoring is an example of private charity, which is voluntary, virtuous behavior which is good for both the giver and receiver, and can be very effective. This is the kind of thing we all need to do and support, especially libertarians.

Taking money from someone's paycheck by force for government run social programs, on the other hand, is neither charitable nor virtuous, and is damaging to both the receiver and the 'giver', and to society. This kind of forced 'charity' can supplant real charity and make the world a poorer, less charitable, less virtuous place. It's not really charity if it's imposed by force.. it's something else.

So you're saying that if paying taxes was voluntary, everyone would pay their fair share...

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One hundred years from now ... it won't matter how much money I made ... how big of a house I lived in ... or what kind of a car I drove... but the world might be a better place because I made a difference in the life of a child...

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Imagine how many 'wounded warriors' we would have if our government wasn't so happy to invade and destroy. 0, zilch, zip, nadda, none....

What % of our GDP is military or related?

Kids join the military because they:

want to experience the world
get out of a bad homelife
free college
steady job
.....

and way down far on the list is.....

"I want to save or help other people"

They will convince themselves that they do, but all-n-all, if you take away those other items (perks...), then very few are true 'warriors' in the sense and just citizens who have chosen a different path.

So, to me, the Government SHOULD be the ENTITY (which is really US but in a forced means) providing for the people who have fractured emotional and physical states. If they don't, real simple. MILITARY on strike....

A) You're missing the point. It's MY money. I earned it. I should be able to dictate where it goes and who it helps....

B) You totally miss the boat on why members of the military do their jobs. It's true that a number of people enlist initially for less than "honorable" or altruistic reasons, but the people that stay, do so for more than money (lord knows they don't get rich) and more than education or benefits. Some people LOVE their job in the military. They love the sense of accomplishment, they love the feeling of pride they receive when others are appreciated. They love their country and above all, they do it because they realize that someone has to do it.

C) We could argue the merits or liabilities in foreign policy, but the fact remains that we have wounded veterans who do not receive top notch support when they return.

I'd gladly give my time and money to a soldier who lost a limb or is partially/totally disabled over some 300 lb, baby factory who smoked 2 packs a day, eats 3x as much food as they should and isn't interested in doing anything other than watching The View and making more babies so she can get more welfare money.

You can spare me the "not everyone is lazy" speeches, the fact is......individuals should be the determinant and operable masters of their wealth and their charity.....NOT the government.

I could name program after program that's failing miserably and a complete waste of money. Do you remember the whole ACORN disaster? Do you remember the fraud and abuse that came from $Billions in wasted FEMA disbursements? There's a zillion examples of how poorly managed government appropriated funds are spent.

Again, the issue at hand is that it's not the government's money. It's my money. It's your money. We should be able to decide who and what it goes toward helping.

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So you're saying that if paying taxes was voluntary, everyone would pay their fair share...

Taxes are necessary. But not for "social" issues. Those issues were always intended to be handled at the state level. NOT the federal level.

It's a very WEAK argument that social security or healthcare or education have anything to do with the commerce clause.

The sad reality is that the Federal government sold those items during "crisis." The government is always selling some gloom/doom scenario in order to strip us of our constitutionally protected rights. The Patriot Act...income taxes, social security, medicare/medicaid, TARP, etc....etc....etc.

Another tenet of libertarianism is government in it's smallest form and at it's LOWEST level.

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Good timing.

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/ss-trust-fund-we-lost-11-trillion-last-year

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