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 dabroja679 
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Hello everyone!

I have a Multicharts platform using Rithmic data through Ironbeam. I cannot seem to find a continuous NQ contract for backtesting purposes. Any help provided will be appreciated. Thank you!

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 MrSharky 
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I dont think Rithmic supports continuous contracts, I have atleast never seen one.

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 SEGroup 
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Rithmic does not provide continuous contract data in their data feed. I have continuous contract data available for the NQ contract, from its inception, as well as most of the other popular Futures symbols. You would need to import this data into the MultiCharts' databases. After doing that, you would then have continuous contract data available for the front month Rithmic symbols, which can be used for backtesting.

1. What resolutions do you need (daily, minutes, ticks)?
2. What date ranges do you need?
3. Do you just need just time and sales data (trades only).
4. Do you need back adjusted data or non-back adjusted data?

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 dabroja679 
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Thanks for the reply, SE Group! I would love to have NQ tick data (back adjusted is preferred) back to 01/01/ 2020, if possible. I would also need some direction as to how to import the data into Multicharts and enable Rithmic to add on to that data moving forward. I am just looking to replicate what Tradestation provides in their @NQ data. I just switched platforms but didn't think I would run into this issue. My bad! Thanks in advance for any help you can provide!

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 SEGroup 
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Hi dabroja679,

I will work on extracting your data tomorrow (Monday). Back adjusted, trade only data, back to 01/01/2020, is fine. I will also provide directions for importing the same into MultiCharts.

What is the starting date of your accumulated data in MultiCharts for the front month NQ Rithmic symbol (NQM2, correct?).

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SEGroup

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 dabroja679 
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Thanks a bunch! As for the data I have, it's very limited. I just got set up with Rithmic last week and it appears it only goes back a couple of weeks. I was pretty surprised to see there is no continuous contract. Pretty tough to backtest as I hope I didn't make a mistake changing platforms. It just seems to me that Multicharts has a more advanced optimization and backtest engine, which was my catalyst for the change. Thanks again for your assistance!

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 syswizard 
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One solution: you could move to IQFeed which is only a bit more expensive than Rithmic.

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 dabroja679 
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Thanks for the suggestion. I have been considering that move/addition to IQ Feed. My FCM is Ironbeam which provides Rithmic data at no additional cost and I don't know the cost of IQ for the Emini futures yet. I have read many different things as to using Rithmic for trading IQ for backtesting as opposed to IQ Feed for the trading data also. I am open to all suggestions. To be clear, I use three charts utilizing three different minute time frames for automated algo trading. It is imperative that I can go back a few years to backtest as well as optimize and do walk forward analysis. I just need to be sure that my backtested/optimized data are correct since I use intrabar exits in my strategy. Also, another problem exists when optimizing tick data, which is the speed of the opti (or lack thereof)! Again, I would love to hear some other alternatives to accomplish this task much quicker! Thanks!

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 dabroja679 
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BTW syswizard, I just noticed you have exactly the same setup that I just switched to. Hopefully you can shed some light!

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 syswizard 
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Since I never have an overnight position, having back-adjusted data is not a big issue.
I just need to know when rollover occurs and not place trades until my largest "barsback"
is met. Got it ? Not as great as having continuous, but not bad if dealing with short time-frames like 200-400 tick bars.
Of course with large time frames like 60-120 minutes, you are going to miss some trades.
BTW: Rithmic is not free.....costs me $100/month.

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