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Post your QuoteManager settings (screen shots) for CL with Rithmic and I or someone else can compare to Zen or Rithmic.

Not sure what you mean on scaling, it could just be an incorrect tick size.

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CL QuoteManager Settings MCDT


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Post your QuoteManager settings (screen shots) for CL with Rithmic and I or someone else can compare to Zen or Rithmic.

Not sure what you mean on scaling, it could just be an incorrect tick size.

Mike

Attached are screenshots of your above request. Also, currently, an open chart for the CL with settings in attachements is showing "No Instrument". Also see screen shot. Remember, the settings are, well, set to my last attempt to get data flowing.

As far as the scaling term - I was attempting to convey that the 4 point bars were spanning from top to bottom of the chart window (maximized). Can't get the CL chart to show any data now or I would post a screen shot of it also.

Thanks for everything!

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Looks like you edited an eSignal entry.

I would create new ones. Tools -> Data Sources, deactivate the ones you don't use and make sure Rithmic has your correct credentials and is enabled.

Then add a new symbol, Instrument -> Add manually. Exchange should be NYMEX. I noticed yours was NYME. Maybe they both work, but for my Zen I am using NYMEX. Then the rest of your settings looked right.

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Looks like you edited an eSignal entry.

I would create new ones. Tools -> Data Sources, deactivate the ones you don't use and make sure Rithmic has your correct credentials and is enabled.

Then add a new symbol, Instrument -> Add manually. Exchange should be NYMEX. I noticed yours was NYME. Maybe they both work, but for my Zen I am using NYMEX. Then the rest of your settings looked right.

Mike


That (adding new symbols), Mike, is one thing that I have NOT tried. You are correct, I did "edit" the original eSignal symbol, many times. And, yes, Rithmic is NYMEX also. The previously attached pictures were the last attempt - I was trying anything by that time just to get it to work - no rhyme or reason.

I will begin the process of implementing your suggestions and post the results as soon as I can - it may be tomorrow, but will continue to shorten the learning curve.

Thanks for everything!

 
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Looks like you edited an eSignal entry.

I would create new ones. Tools -> Data Sources, deactivate the ones you don't use and make sure Rithmic has your correct credentials and is enabled.

Then add a new symbol, Instrument -> Add manually. Exchange should be NYMEX. I noticed yours was NYME. Maybe they both work, but for my Zen I am using NYMEX. Then the rest of your settings looked right.

Mike

I have data flowing now for CL. I am glad there are people smarter than me.

Which brings up the issue that was not fixed the last time I had data flowing: The data on the chart is not plotting like I think it should.

Attached you find screenshots of a MCDT chart with CL 4 point settings and several screen shots of the chart window settings and instrument settings.

Notice that the 4 point setting is filling the screen almost from top to bottom in one bar - looks like a broken zig-zag line. Again, I am using a Rithmic data feed.

I am almost there. Can any help with the correct settings?

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Go back to QuoteManager, and make sure you have it set to price scale 1/100, min movement 1, big point value 1000.

You can also right-click and clear cache/delete data.

Close QuoteManager. Then in MultiCharts, hit Ctrl-R to reload the symbol. You may need to close and re-open the chart as well.

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Go back to QuoteManager, and make sure you have it set to price scale 1/100, min movement 1, big point value 1000.

You can also right-click and clear cache/delete data.

Close QuoteManager. Then in MultiCharts, hit Ctrl-R to reload the symbol. You may need to close and re-open the chart as well.

Mike

Okay, this feels like a DUH! moment! IT'S WORKING!!!!!!!!! See screenshot below.

Would anyone know where I could get the correct settings (price scale, min movement, big point value, etc) for Rithmic symbols? Maybe this should be known and I have asked my broker for such a "list" but they didn't know what I was asking for - I am sure it was me though.

I am use to TOS - put the symbol (they give you a list) in and everything appropriately scales. Yes, I know that I could keep using TOS, but lately, for me anyway, the platform is becoming "jumpy". Oh, I like NT7 too, but not as much as MC at this point.

Thanks again for putting up with an old fart like me!!

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Okay, this feels like a DUH! moment! IT'S WORKING!!!!!!!!! See screenshot below.

Would anyone know where I could get the correct settings (price scale, min movement, big point value, etc) for Rithmic symbols? Maybe this should be known and I have asked my broker for such a "list" but they didn't know what I was asking for - I am sure it was me though.

I am use to TOS - put the symbol (they give you a list) in and everything appropriately scales. Yes, I know that I could keep using TOS, but lately, for me anyway, the platform is becoming "jumpy". Oh, I like NT7 too, but not as much as MC at this point.

Thanks again for putting up with an old fart like me!!

Until MultiCharts adds dictionary support for Zen Fire/Rithmic, you have to just do it manually. Be sure to voice your concerns to MultiCharts --- go to their project management site, MultiCharts Project Management and tell them you really need a symbol dictionary for Rithmic.

Price scale is pretty easy. How many digits is the symbol quoted in? CL is 2 (so 1/100), 6E is 4 (so 1/10000), ES is 2 (so 1/100) etc. As for the min movement, ES moves in .25 increments so 25. CL moves in .01 increments so 1. 6E moves in 0.0001 increments so 1. As for daily limit, I think it's obsolete feature. For big point value, you have to do some math after knowing the value of each tick. CL is $10.00 a tick, and 100 ticks in a point, so $1000. ES is $12.50 a tick, and 4 ticks in a point, so $50.

Mike

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With MultiCharts QuoteManager, this seems to suggest you can record and save the Bid/Ask info for historical processing.

Does anyone know for sure?

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Hi Mike

I'm making some test , seems be possible getting bid/ask data . I'm getting data from Esignal , if i choose granularity 1 tick , I'm able only to retrieve a day( 1MIL record for Bid , the same for Ask) but this is caused from MC limitation to display 1 mil. bar max. see attachment to obtain more bars displayed.

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Hi Mike

I'm making some test , seems be possible getting bid/ask data . I'm getting data from Esignal , if i choose granularity 1 tick , I'm able only to retrieve a day( 1MIL record for Bid , the same for Ask) but this is caused from MC limitation to display 1 mil. bar max. see attachment to obtain more bars displayed.


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The limit sets by default in Multicharts to 1 milion bars back reference can be change and improved to many milions in this way (pay attention to the RAM limit of your machine.......this way you can achive many milions of bars even with tick bars):

1 -To increase max number of bars on the chart, you should modify the following registry settings
(Start --> Run --> Regedit):

2 - go to this registry setting HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\TS Support\MultiCharts\Shaper

3 - select MaxBarsCount

4 - select decimals and increase the number from 1 milion to N milions (I've increased it to 100 milions with 8 Gb RAM and a 64 bit OS Windows 7)

5 - click OK

6 - now when you start up your machine again the Operating system read the new registry and you can charge your chart with many milions of bars

PAY ATTENTION to Multicharts programmers advice !!!!
"Normally, we do not recommecnd to increase this value.
However, if you will use only one chart, you can increase it to 15,000,000."

I've increased it to 100 milions with no problems and charged even to 50 milions tick bars on ES

Hope this will help you !!!

Very good info, thx.

Mike

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