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Learning programming through University or online courses?

Hi all,

I'm determined to start learning programming as soon as I free up some time in a few months time. I've considered applying at the university and actually take a degree in computer science, but it seems like there's so many great resources online now with courses that it would be a better choice to go for them?

I imagine the latter to be more straight-to-the-point while the former usually have a lot of unnecessary filler stuff based on prior experiences with my other degrees. The advantage with a degree is of course that it might be worth something in the end. I'm in Norway, so school is basically 'free' here.

Not sure which language to start on either. It seems like Python is very popular these days. On the other hand, I currently use Ninjatrader which uses C# and have an application written to me in C#. I imagine the learning curve to be higher with C# though...

Thanks in advance for any comments.

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Hi all,

I'm determined to start learning programming as soon as I free up some time in a few months time. I've considered applying at the university and actually take a degree in computer science, but it seems like there's so many great resources online now with courses that it would be a better choice to go for them?

I imagine the latter to be more straight-to-the-point while the former usually have a lot of unnecessary filler stuff based on prior experiences with my other degrees. The advantage with a degree is of course that it might be worth something in the end. I'm in Norway, so school is basically 'free' here.

Not sure which language to start on either. It seems like Python is very popular these days. On the other hand, I currently use Ninjatrader which uses C# and have an application written to me in C#. I imagine the learning curve to be higher with C# though...

Thanks in advance for any comments.

IMO:

You have to answer the "why do you want to learn programming?" question first. So, ... why?

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IMO:

You have to answer the "why do you want to learn programming?" question first. So, ... why?

My main motivation is to use it to enhance my trading. I have a lot of stuff that's developed by others and currently have one indicator in development by others. I want to be able to eventually program my own stuff and not have to rely on others whenever I want something done.

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My main motivation is to use it to enhance my trading. I have a lot of stuff that's developed by others and currently have one indicator in development by others. I want to be able to eventually program my own stuff and not have to rely on others whenever I want something done.

You want to code your stuff on Ninja Trader?

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UNIVERSITY CERTIFICATE

https://certificate.tpq.io/

can be a preparation for the Python-API of Oanda, FXCM and Interactive Brokers.

The Python-API of Oanda and FXCM is easy compare to the Interactive Brokers one.
If you need to use Interactive Brokers I can recommend https://www.quantconnect.com
and https://www.quantrocket.com .

Python is with https://www.quantopian.com and https://www.quantiacs.com/ a great Language to compete with others !
However I would not recommend it for private use !


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You want to code your stuff on Ninja Trader?

Not necessarily. I might not even be using NT by the time I'm proficient in code.

But long term - I feel learning to code is a must. And if I'm still at Ninjatrader and have needs, sure...

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https://certificate.tpq.io/

can be a preparation for the Python-API of Oanda, FXCM and Interactive Brokers.

The Python-API of Oanda and FXCM is easy compare to the Interactive Brokers one.
If you need to use Interactive Brokers I can recommend https://www.quantconnect.com
and https://www.quantrocket.com .

Python is with https://www.quantopian.com and https://www.quantiacs.com/ a great Language to compete with others !
However I would not recommend it for private use !

Just took a brief look. Seem really great at a glance, but would need to do some research.

Do you have personal experience with it?

If you don't recommend Python for private use - what DO you recommend?

Thanks.

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Not necessarily. I might not even be using NT by the time I'm proficient in code.

But long term - I feel learning to code is a must. And if I'm still at Ninjatrader and have needs, sure...

Ok. I recommend starting with C#. I recommend finding a tutorial/class on udemy.com . Very inexpensive.

I've found that they are more thorough than free tutorials.

C# is a general purpose language, so you'll be able to code whatever you want ... not just trading algos. C# is also popular and well documented. Also, the MS IDE is free.

Keep in mind that anyone can learn to paint, but everyone can't be an artist. Schools, tutorials, books, videos will give you the building blocks; how you put them together is a matter of your math skills, logic skills, and creativity. Good Luck!

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Ok. I recommend starting with C#. I recommend finding a tutorial/class on udemy.com . Very inexpensive.

I've found that they are more thorough than free tutorials.

C# is a general purpose language, so you'll be able to code whatever you want ... not just trading algos. C# is also popular and well documented. Also, the MS IDE is free.

Keep in mind that anyone can learn to paint, but everyone can't be an artist. Schools, tutorials, books, videos will give you the building blocks; how you put them together is a matter of your math skills, logic skills, and creativity. Good Luck!

Good advice. Thanks. I think an actual course is a good way to go. I'll look into udemy.

Are you a proficient or professional programmers yourself?

Regarding your last paragraph, I realize that it will be a long way before I'm competent as a coder. Maybe I'll never get there either. But I do at least want to become good enough that I can do some smaller stuff on my own and modify the stuff I already have or follow what other programmers are doing.

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