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Experiences with the MarketDelta or Investor RT Platform

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While i agree that 160/month is a bit steep since gomi has almost everything for free, its only 12 ES ticks a month. If you really like, you can use IRT and ninja for footprint.. half the price.

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There is something to be said about the customization possibilities in NT. Everything from drawing to custom calculations. As a programmer I love it.

The problems I have with NT have to do with data-handling. I do push it (have 20-30 charts open) but most of the problems are orthogonal to that. I have volunteered to help them multiple times with a debuggable/verbose messaging binary but they have not agreed. In a multi-threaded environment, lots of bugs appear only when the system is pushed. Unfortunately they do not get it.

The other problem of course is the lack of historical tick data being pumped into the charts, which forces the use of the GOMI indicators.

The time it has taken to stabilize it makes their software engineering infrastructure a bit suspect. Either they are grossly understaffed for the scope or they treat as a hacking project and not as a serious software. I used to write software which was used to design chips. An error there could delay chips, and cost a company tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars. I am used to solid testing and reliability. NT too deals with real money but the same errors keep on reappearing as the fix one thing which makes me suspicious of their testing environment.

I am still hoping that one day things will be stable and I actually would trust it enough to buy a paid license to place trades. I am a die-hard optimist at heart.

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Another thing about market delta, is that you see full line of updates on the platform about every 6 months or so, as opposed to ninja's 6.5 to 7.0 which took 2 years.
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They develop fast, they go from beta to release in no time... and with quality code... 10.2.X was out a few months ago, now 10.3.X is out with tons of improvements, etc. and rather stable. I use it for my main charting.. and if you dont use MP, IRT is cheaper than going with MD.. but as you said, same product pretty much.

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Would one of you mind explaining to me the entire Investor RT relationship with MarketDelta? Are we talking about split development project, or is there one centralized project and it is being re-branded or private labeled? Who is the primary here? Features missing in one vs the other?

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Would one of you mind explaining to me the entire Investor RT relationship with MarketDelta? Are we talking about split development project, or is there one centralized project and it is being re-branded or private labeled? Who is the primary here? Features missing in one vs the other?

Mike

MarketDelta is derived from Investor RT, keeps the same code but adds footprint charts. MD keeps updating as IRT evolves. They have a comercial relationship. As IRT is the base, MD lags IRT as far as updates are concerned. IRT guys are also much more polite than MD when you need support.

Best combo: IRT plus Gomi ladder. Same benefits and a hundred bucks cheaper.

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MarketDelta is derived from Investor RT, keeps the same code but adds footprint charts. MD keeps updating as IRT evolves. They have a comercial relationship. As IRT is the base, MD lags IRT as far as updates are concerned. IRT guys are also much more polite than MD when you need support.

I thought that I had read somewhere else on the forum that IRT does indeed have footprint, even though most people think it does not. Wrong?

What about pricing, is MD cheaper than IRT?

Mike

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Need help?
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2) Start a journal and post to it daily with the trades you made to show your strengths and weaknesses.
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Best combo: IRT plus Gomi ladder. Same benefits and a hundred bucks cheaper.

Oh, just saw this edit. Yeah gomi is great, but no NinjaTrader for me... so IRT is $100/mo more than MD w/footprints?

Mike

Due to time constraints, please do not PM me if your question can be resolved or answered on the forum.

Need help?
1) Stop changing things. No new indicators, charts, or methods. Be consistent with what is in front of you first.
2) Start a journal and post to it daily with the trades you made to show your strengths and weaknesses.
3) Set goals for yourself to reach daily. Make them about how you trade, not how much money you make.
4) Accept responsibility for your actions. Stop looking elsewhere to explain away poor performance.
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Would one of you mind explaining to me the entire Investor RT relationship with MarketDelta? Are we talking about split development project, or is there one centralized project and it is being re-branded or private labeled? Who is the primary here? Features missing in one vs the other?

Mike

Here u go Investor/RT Tour - Volume Profile Charts.

Edit MD is more expensive than IRT.

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Oh, just saw this edit. Yeah gomi is great, but no NinjaTrader for me... so IRT is $100/mo more than MD w/footprints?

Mike

IRT is about $100 less than MD, which has footprint. You can get IRT, which is cheaper, and use Gomi ladder to have the footprint charts for free.

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this links should clarify it better for you...

Investor/RT - Pricing Summary
Investor/RT - Product Functionality Classes

ProductMonthly License Fee
Investor/RTStandard Edition $40
Professional Edition$60
Investor/RT Market Profile Standard Edition $55
Investor/RT Market Profile Professional Edition $75
Investor/RT End-of-DayStandard Edition $20
Investor/RT End-of-DayProfessional Edition$30

https://www.marketdelta.com/Overview



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I thought that I had read somewhere else on the forum that IRT does indeed have footprint, even though most people think it does not. Wrong?

What about pricing, is MD cheaper than IRT?

Mike


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