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E-Mini Calendar Spread Tick Size

Old July 7th, 2014, 12:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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E-Mini Calendar Spread Tick Size

I am trying to test various ES strategies. Obviously, tick size plays a big role in profitability, assuming purchases at the ask and exits at the bid. I know that tick size is reduced dramatically to .05 points ($2.50) on the E-mini. Can someone give an actual example of a spread trade (with accurate figures)? How does a trade become more profitable with the reduced tick size in this type of trade?

Are there any other ways to reduce the spread when trading the E-mini (other than buying on bid and selling on ask - which I assume can't be done that often in scalping)? Thanks.

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Old July 8th, 2014, 03:11 AM   #3 (permalink)
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It is unusual to trade calendar spreads for index futures. For futures based on a price index (case ES) the spread only depends on dividend and interest rate expectations and the nominal value of the stock basket. For index futures based on a total return index (case FDAX) the spread only depends on interest rate expectations and the nominal value of the stock basket.

If you enter a spread on index futures, there is no reason that its fair value changes, unless there are substantial changes to the short end of the yield curve. Playing an arbitrage game to exploit temporary market inefficiencies in the pricing between two contracts is not something retail traders should try to do. This is the privilege of high frequency traders using bots, low latency connections and having lower commissions.

If you want to trade the yield curve, then you would trade spreads on interest rate futures.

If you want to trade cyclical patterns in physical supply and demand, then you should stick to commodities and avoid financial futures. In this context gold futures should be considered as financial futures.

I do not see a single reason to buy or sell a spread on index futures, except for rolling my position from the old to the new front month around rollover day.

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