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Experienced programmer looking for experienced trading partner

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pyrotrader
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I'll PM you some thoughts and ideas that might be useful for what you're setting out to do and we can talk further if you like.

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pyrotrader
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What might help others is knowing what sort of things you plan to discuss daily? What sort of questions are looking to get answered?

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 wwwingman 
Paris, France
 
Experience: Intermediate
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What might help others is knowing what sort of things you plan to discuss daily? What sort of questions are looking to get answered?

@pyrotrader,

Thank you.

My main goal is to have a daily conversation with a professional trader.

It is important for me to have a regular meeting. I believe it is more effective than occasional meetings.
I am not against groups, but it is not what I am looking for now.
Regarding the pro aspect, it is because I learned a lot from pros and almost nothing from amateurs.
The main difference seem to be amateurs see money as a goal, pros see money as a consequence of good trading.

I think the goal should be a daily meeting of ~45 mn.
I then do 1-2 hours programming for the partner (daily), or for common projects (if of interest to partner).

The meeting is an exchange of general or specific ideas around trading.
There is a lot of info in books/internet/forums/... but brainstorming alone is IMO very tough (vain ?).

My topics of interest :
* concepts I use for my methodology (auction/value/acceptance/rejection/change/path of least resistance/..).
* money management strategies.
* psychology and discipline.
* daily routines, pre/post market analysis, journaling,..
* discretionary / semi automatic / automatic approaches.
* trading markets vs setups vs market understanding..
* scalping / swinging / ...
* industry related topics (HFT/prop shops/exchange/futures vs options vs forex / MFGlobal ...)
and
* one / two market daily/weekly analysis

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 Massive l 
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I'm currently looking for a programmer to implement automated strategies in the cryptocurrency (Bitcoin) market.
Do you have access to Bitcoin markets on sierra chart? I know NinjaTrader has a plug-in.
I have the strategies detailed in another language. Just need to port them.

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 wwwingman 
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I'm currently looking for a programmer to implement automated strategies in the cryptocurrency (Bitcoin) market.
Do you have access to Bitcoin markets on sierra chart? I know NinjaTrader has a plug-in.
I have the strategies detailed in another language. Just need to port them.

Hi Massive l

I don't have access to Bitcoin, and believe Sierra Chart fully supports bitcoin markets data and trading.

I will PM you.

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 Spikeygirl 
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Hey wingman! So you are just looking at bouncing ideas [yours and your counterparts] off each other with the
final "quest" being the design of a possible profitable system. Am I correct? I use sierra and noticed that you
posted on sierra support venue and indicated that you had uploaded the EIC vwap dlls, however I could not
locate them on the sub study section. Any way I can get your e-mail address so I can interact with you and
possibly obtain the EIC vwap dll for sierra? Let me know!
Hope you are in a warm state, if not be warm and stay well.
Spikeygirl

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 wwwingman 
Paris, France
 
Experience: Intermediate
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Hey wingman! So you are just looking at bouncing ideas [yours and your counterparts] off each other with the
final "quest" being the design of a possible profitable system. Am I correct? I use sierra and noticed that you
posted on sierra support venue and indicated that you had uploaded the EIC vwap dlls, however I could not
locate them on the sub study section. Any way I can get your e-mail address so I can interact with you and
possibly obtain the EIC vwap dll for sierra? Let me know!
Hope you are in a warm state, if not be warm and stay well.
Spikeygirl

Hi Spikeygirl,

I am trying to build my daily routine which I believe to be an important part of trading.
I am not looking for somebody to trade with, but believe that being challanged daily on your premarket/post market analysis is useful.
I am not trying to find somebody like me. I came to the conclusion having a professional partner is worth the effort of programming time in exchange of a professional approach and experience. I am not against amateurs, but will not give programming time for that.

The ECIVwap is part of Sierra User contributed since version 1040 and there is a mail in the indicator documentation.

W.

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 Spikeygirl 
Orlando, Florida USA
 
Experience: Master
Platform: Think or Swim [How utterly appropriate]
Trading: es, eur/usd
Posts: 18 since May 2012
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I am trying to build my daily routine which I believe to be an important part of trading.
I guess I would say that whatever strategy you use to build your daily strategy you MUST trust your set-up. Like any tool one could give a five year old a hammer and before you know it he/she will get the "swing of it" but I am sure the parent or day care provider would not be too pleased with the resulting holes everywhere. But, if the same hammer is given to a carpenter ... well you know the outcome. So, my question to you is; What does your GUT tell you about your strategy? When you implement it or see yourself implementing it do you feel stressed or relaxed?


I am not looking for somebody to trade with, but believe that being challenged daily on your pre-market/post market analysis is useful.
Your BEST challenger is your Profit versus your Loss. If you find yourself making a Profit, avoid getting snarky and just "feel" that it is what is suppose to be; You are a Profitable Trader. However, if you find yourself on the opposite end then re-evaluate where you "stumbled". I heard keeping a journal [date, time, entry, exit, comments] is a great tool. What I would do is place a trade and those stumblers I would stop, playback what was going on then adjust my mental focus, trade the simulator the rest of the day using the SAME strategy I started off with until I was back on track in the Black.


I am not trying to find somebody like me. I came to the conclusion having a professional partner is worth the effort of programming time in exchange of a professional approach and experience. I am not against amateurs, but will not give programming time for that.
You know when I was studying chemistry I would be the "tech support" for the accounting students and you know what? I became a better chemist. They say and I can confirm that sometimes it is the "newbien" who opens a whole lot more doors and windows than a pro. And if you can teach a newbien then before you know it you will be the Go-To-Pro. But, on the other hand the newbien does take up quite a bit of time and can feel like butting heads with a ram at times. LOL I don't require a programmer but would be open to tossing around a few ideas with you, but please ensure you are specific with your inquiries. If you like I would be more than happy to e-mail you my phone number and you can call me [After trading hours, please remember EU is 5 hours difference than US]

The ECIVwap is part of Sierra User contributed since version 1040 and there is a mail in the indicator documentation.
Yes, I did locate it. Thank you in advance.
Look forward to chatting with you [e-mail or by phone]
Ciao'

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 wwwingman 
Paris, France
 
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...What does your GUT tell you about your strategy? When you implement it or see yourself implementing it do you feel stressed or relaxed?

Good question.
I am still building my strategy. Some technical issues, some decisions to make, some psychological issues.
I feel relaxed because I try to understand what I do and I take the time needed for that. I believe it is the right way for me because it helps me build confidence.


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...Your BEST challenger is your Profit versus your Loss.

I completely disagree. I think money is the main problem in trading because it hides the name of the game : skill building. My belief is that there are 4 kind of trades : good/bad/win/lose. My goal is to make good trades and some of them will be losers/cost of business. The income is a natural consequence of a good skill. I am not saying this is true, I am saying it is my belief and it goes far beyond trading.


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...You know when I was studying chemistry I would be the "tech support" for the accounting students and you know what? I became a better chemist. They say and I can confirm that sometimes it is the "newbien" who opens a whole lot more doors and windows than a pro.

I agree. However, you did not become a chimist through newbies. You did it with advanced teachers.
Talking to newbies traders indeed helps me. However talking to pros makes me progress a lot, and talking to newbies+ motivates me but does not make me progress. It is like any martial art, you can learn with beginners but you will never be a master without a master. Life is too short.

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 Spikeygirl 
Orlando, Florida USA
 
Experience: Master
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Question: Would you agree that one must be able to "gauge" a strategy to determine if it is efficient?

When I stated that you should "use" Profit/Loss as your challenger I am not speaking in terms of NET. I am speaking in terms of using P/L as a Determinant of your overall strategy. Like a balance or scale. If your strategy is worthwhile then your POSITIVE balance would be heavier than the other scale side.

As for the psychology portion: If you have determined via testing that the scale you use[technical or analytics] is efficient and effective enough to produce a greater than positive to negative ratio then experiment with it. But like any test try it with a minimum amount at first until it proves to be worthy of a larger sum. Just like TRUST it has to be EARNED.

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