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Old December 1st, 2016, 02:29 PM   #1061 (permalink)
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On AMP I see the data being $117/mo

My god... I dont know how anyone would pay that with it going to $5/tick.
Yikes

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Old December 1st, 2016, 07:46 PM   #1062 (permalink)
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Looking for a short to get down to 16.9
Not seeing anything yet but am watching...
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Old December 1st, 2016, 07:54 PM   #1063 (permalink)
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On AMP I see the data being $117/mo

My god... I dont know how anyone would pay that with it going to $5/tick.
Yikes

I understand but I will continue to trade it. The ym is 5 and nq is $5 as well(as I remember...haven't looked at it in years) so I look at it that way.
At the end of the day as you know each index has it's own "personality" and TF is most compatible with me.
I suspect they won't attract new traders for the reason you state but pretty soon it will go back to the CME and will do much better over there. In the mean time people like me will get hosed a bit more.

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Old December 1st, 2016, 07:58 PM   #1064 (permalink)
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On AMP I see the data being $117/mo

My god... I dont know how anyone would pay that with it going to $5/tick.
Yikes

I still can't wrap my head around this. This has to be some sort of late April Fools prank. I heard that it needs to get regulatory approval first. I hope it doesn't!

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Old December 2nd, 2016, 07:36 AM   #1065 (permalink)
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Will the reduction of value per tick cause more liquidity on the TF?
Will traders now increase their amount of contracts for trading in order to compensate for the lower price per tick?

Does anyone know how the reduction of value per tick size - while maintaining the minimum ticksize - affected other indexes or main futures instruments in the past ? So not e.g. the 6E as there the ticksize also changed.

I am just new to trading the TF and I like the index. But I am worried that the TF will behave different due to the reduction of value per tick and that it will be hard to simply double the amount of contracts used in order to compensate for the reduction of value per tick.

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Old December 2nd, 2016, 10:49 AM   #1066 (permalink)
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Will the reduction of value per tick cause more liquidity on the TF?
Will traders now increase their amount of contracts for trading in order to compensate for the lower price per tick?

Does anyone know how the reduction of value per tick size - while maintaining the minimum ticksize - affected other indexes or main futures instruments in the past ? So not e.g. the 6E as there the ticksize also changed.

I am just new to trading the TF and I like the index. But I am worried that the TF will behave different due to the reduction of value per tick and that it will be hard to simply double the amount of contracts used in order to compensate for the reduction of value per tick.

I don't know the the answer to your question but am inclined to think it will trade the same.


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Old December 5th, 2016, 02:11 PM   #1067 (permalink)
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Anybody trading Russell today have any reports about differences or changes since last week?

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Old December 6th, 2016, 12:55 AM   #1068 (permalink)
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Anybody trading Russell today have any reports about differences or changes since last week?

You would expect volume to double, but it stayed about the same today as it was last week.
Also market depth at each level seemed to stay the same instead of doubling.

It was like no one knew anything had changed.

So ICE will lose 50% of the revenue from this product if volume does not increase.

This makes me almost think they did this on purpose to kill the contract before it goes back to CME.

If it stays like this, then market is now thinner at every level than it was before
Although it shouldn't make much difference if you are trading less than 10 contracts.
But as Market depth seems thinner than it was before (adjusted for the new size) i would expect more slippage on fills during fast/volatile moves.


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Old December 6th, 2016, 10:28 PM   #1069 (permalink)
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Anybody trading Russell today have any reports about differences or changes since last week?

Seems same to me

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Old December 6th, 2016, 10:31 PM   #1070 (permalink)
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Haven't looked at charts till just now but would say we're going down to at least 35.4
Not sure after that, maybe a long shortly after it gets hit...wait and see

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