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Started:September 2nd, 2011 (07:08 AM) by Big Mike Views / Replies:48,485 / 524
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Elite only for ALL downloads?

Old September 5th, 2011, 03:06 PM   #81 (permalink)
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To be honest, I'm not an elite user so I'd be missing out, but for $50 its not going to break the bank to sign up.

I'd doubt it would be seen as a cynical ploy to extract cash from users as you do offer a quality site


Old September 5th, 2011, 03:09 PM   #82 (permalink)
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I think making downloads an elite only function is a good idea. If you could use the security code idea others have talked about, I would add that in as well. This site is the best that I know of, and anything that you can do to improve it is a good move.

My focus is on:
1. Avoid the opening chop.
2. Honor stops
3. Ensure reward > risk on all trades

Old September 5th, 2011, 03:10 PM   #83 (permalink)
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Mike I agree. Make email verification with a valid phone number a requirement. I can't see doing much more than that without hurting some of the current members onsite.

Best of luck,



Old September 5th, 2011, 03:12 PM   #84 (permalink)
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Elite wont stop trolls

Changing to elite only downloads may be a good idea, but it wont stop people from stealing/selling stuff. The people that are doing that, will gladly pay the fee to get in and take what they want. It will certainly help with bots though.

Anything that was put up as non-elite though is really fair game, and no one should have an expectation that someone else is not going to take it and run with it.


Old September 5th, 2011, 03:15 PM   #85 (permalink)
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Hi Mike,

Great topic and from my own standpoint I saw futures.io (formerly BMT) and realized what a great place it was immediately and wanted to contribute and did so within my first hour on the site. I have not posted alot because I am in learning mode and still absorbing alot of what is on the site.

One thing I would like to see for elite members is the ability to download the webinars. This may already be the case and I just don't know how. I am usually trying to access them from my laptop when I have free time and am on a weaker internet connection at that point. It would be nice to be able to D/L the webinars and take them with me.

That said, whatever you need to do to protect the integrity of the site is what you should do. I think I agree that 50 posts is a lot of posts. But if they don't wish to support the site by contributing then they should support it in other ways in return for all thats offered here.

Best regards and I am so happy to have found this place.



Old September 5th, 2011, 03:16 PM   #86 (permalink)
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Mike, I agree with your thoughts on allowing downloads by elite members only. Although I am not an avid poster and am not outspoken on boards, we do have to start somewhere. If someone is unwilling to pay the reasonable membership fee, one would have to question their sincerity as a trader and desire to know more rather than just to see their thoughts (whether good or bad) in print. I, for one, hate to read through numerous posts just to find one morsel of worthwhile information. Just my thoughts.


Old September 5th, 2011, 03:17 PM   #87 (permalink)
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Of course NOTHING is going to completely stop all abuse of people's indicators, but it might slow it down.

Just like any other type of countermeasure..... seat-belts don't stop all roadside casualties, nor are chaffs a guarantee to re-direct a missile aimed at a fighter plane. But they are at least 'some' measure of protection.

That's all this would do, is possibly slow-down or deter some people from abusing the download section. Probably better than not having it.


Old September 5th, 2011, 03:17 PM   #88 (permalink)
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no easy or perfect solution

Hi Mike,

Unfortunately, I don't think there's a clear an ideal solution for the problem but sincerely hope you will come up with one that insures the survival of this truly excellent forum. I'd like to add my thanks for all your continuing hard work in creating and maintaining it.

best regards,

Sean Hunt


Old September 5th, 2011, 03:18 PM   #89 (permalink)
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I am new to this forum. This is one of the very few good forums I could find on the internet. More rigorous sign up verification, telephone, unique security code for each login. You generate the code from the smartphone via a software you can only download if passing the first verification step. Much like google's 2 step verification login.

Best Regards

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Old September 5th, 2011, 03:19 PM   #90 (permalink)
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My vote would be to go ahead and make all downloads for Elite only. I'm brand new to the board and just returned to trading after about a 6 year hiatus. Due to this I haven't posted anything because I don't feel like I have anything to contribute just yet, so I would vote against tying the downloads to a certain number of posts.

In some ways, I would recommend that you not do lifetime memberships and instead charge $50/year. Given the content you're working on, I think it justifies itself. The recurring fee ensures that you have people that are serious about trading and being a part of the community and would maybe provide some more dependable revenue to cover site expenses and finance further improvements/additions (hopefully).

My two cents and my first post... On second thought, perhaps this post is only worth one cent.


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